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The author of that piece quotes EWD, but not in full, which is odd -- were he to have done so, it would have strengthened his thesis, viz.:

"Simplicity is a great virtue but it requires hard work to achieve it and education to appreciate it. And to make matters worse: complexity sells better."

-- Edsger W. Dijkstra

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> This programming bible earned a famous comment from Bill Gates: "It took incredible discipline, and several months, for me to read it."

I know he's a trillionaire and all and probably smarter than me but still - as somebody who spent a full three years reading and working through the problems in the first three books, I wonder how deep an understanding he could really have walked away with after just a few months.

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Summary: « the skills required of professional and successful programmers are drastically different from the ones needed back in the 1990s. The profession now requires less mathematics and algorithms and instead emphasizes more skills under the umbrella term "sociotech." »

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> This programming bible earned a famous comment from Bill Gates: "It took incredible discipline, and several months, for me to read it." I know he's a trillionaire and all and probably smarter than me but still - as somebody who spent a full three years reading and working through the problems in the first three books, I wonder how deep an understanding he could really have walked away with after just a few months.

Enough seems to be the answer?

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> This programming bible earned a famous comment from Bill Gates: "It took incredible discipline, and several months, for me to read it." I know he's a trillionaire and all and probably smarter than me but still - as somebody who spent a full three years reading and working through the problems in the first three books, I wonder how deep an understanding he could really have walked away with after just a few months.

He was in math 55a in Harvard, it was considered the hardest math undergrad course in the country back then. So I think it's maybe possible for him.

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Having worked in corporate IT, with all its human and technical challenges, i agree that the "sociotech" elements are critical for engineering, but I also think that corporates massively misunderstand the value of the hacker culture and underestimate the extent to which the "sociotech" challenges are a direct result of having a weak "hacker" culture... we should challenge the "band aid" approach to fixing corporate bullshit

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> This programming bible earned a famous comment from Bill Gates: "It took incredible discipline, and several months, for me to read it." I know he's a trillionaire and all and probably smarter than me but still - as somebody who spent a full three years reading and working through the problems in the first three books, I wonder how deep an understanding he could really have walked away with after just a few months.

He was in math 55a in Harvard, it was considered the hardest math undergrad course in the country back then. So I think it's maybe possible for him.

I took Math 55. There is no way any of my fellow students (or anyone else for that matter) could meaningfully work through the full Art of Computer Programming (or even one of the volumes) in “several months”, even working on it full time, except in some similar way to my grandfather “seeing all the art” in the Louvre in a few hours.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was in math 55a in Harvard, it was considered the hardest math undergrad course in the country back then. So I think it's maybe possible for him.

I took Math 55. There is no way any of my fellow students (or anyone else for that matter) could meaningfully work through the full Art of Computer Programming (or even one of the volumes) in “several months”, even working on it full time, except in some similar way to my grandfather “seeing all the art” in the Louvre in a few hours.

That's amazing you did that, maybe he meant book one. I read where he was working on early compilers also, so maybe he had some odd domain knowledge.
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