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My experience is the opposite of yours. Oh look, we cancel out. Hurray for anecdotes and biases!
I mean, if they're coming from a different major, it's the equivalent of hiring people after sophomore year. If they haven't been programming outside that, that frankly isn't enough time to be a good programmer.
Consider applying for grad school
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It's not an unreasonable opinion, but I doubt a PhD can make up for lack of real-world experience. Likely, the best way to get better at solving global problems is by doing just that for years, preferably alongside others with more experience. IMO learn to swim in the pool.
I've wondered if working for 10 or so years and then getting a PhD could be a good strategy.
FYI for others wondering about the same, I wouldn't wait the full 10 years unless you are going to study something very industry adjacent like software engineering methodology. I've had to spend a lot of time relearning anything theoretical.
I bet the sweet spot is 2-5 years.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not an unreasonable opinion, but I doubt a PhD can make up for lack of real-world experience. Likely, the best way to get better at solving global problems is by doing just that for years, preferably alongside others with more experience. IMO learn to swim in the pool.
The question raised by the article is, can real-world experience make up for a lack of PhD? A balance of both is perhaps best, which is what industry PhD holders have.
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This is discouraging. As someone with a BS in something other than CS I don't feel that I get the benefit of the doubt during interviews. My CS fundamentals are weak because I never learned them and they very rarely come up in building things and I have been thinking of going back for a CS Masters
Pick up Discrete Mathematics by Knuth, Foundations of Mathematics by Sibley, Modern Operating Systems by Tanenbaum, and Computer Organization and Design by Patterson and Hennessy. You internalize those, combined with your experience, and you'll be better off than a lot of CS grads.
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#75I always wanted to get a PhD, but I don't have a BS. Is there any way I can skip the BS?
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#76I'm not sure if anyone else covered it but you have to have a certain amount of money to get a PHD. I was approved to enter a doctorate program at Stanford. I couldn't afford it so I went to HP to earn some money. After the five-year approval expired I was disappointed that I could never afford it. (We're talking astronomical numbers here).
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#77One point jumped out at me, which I haven't seen anyone respond to: > We are concerned about untrained amateurs going directly into trying to solve very difficult global problems. They can then cause harm overall, by lowering the average quality of analysis or launching ill-considered projects due to a lack of experience or understanding. A PhD reduces the risk you’ll accidentally do this. This point is operating off…
It's not an unreasonable opinion, but I doubt a PhD can make up for lack of real-world experience. Likely, the best way to get better at solving global problems is by doing just that for years, preferably alongside others with more experience. IMO learn to swim in the pool.
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Pedantically: yes, but almost all of them have salary as a prerequisite. Practically: no, not really.
My PhD and the research I do now based on it give me a huge amount of personal satisfaction and are a big part of my quality of life. I'm comparing the work I did before my PhD (because I worked after my degree before a PhD) and seeing what my friends think about work compared to me. Yeah if you're looking for more money, maybe don't do a PhD. If you're looking for the time and space to find satisfaction by working o…
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#79I was expecting reasons why now is a better climate to apply then in previous years. That would be interesting, but instead it's a list of generic reasons to apply for a phd. Yes, I know that phd's can open doors.
Same, but I read more like "if you've been considering grad school, you should just go ahead and apply!" I was hoping for some reason I hadn't considered, to consider grad school. As it stands I have no idea why I should go to grad school lol, I'm already happily employed. I guess it's not for me!