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I talk a lot in #emacs and I do treat it like a coffee klatch, but when people come with questions, I try to interrupt myself and at least address their questions. I like #emacs. It's like a gathering of friends who happen to use Emacs.
#emacs is an off-topic channel, if you have any questions(that you can't find just by googling), then it's best to use stackexchange/reddit.
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> current toxicity of social media The only response I can conjure up for this is “wat” IRC in my experience is the most toxic and mean-spirited place on earth. 4chan is easier to take because I can justify their meanness to lulz. People on IRC seem to be out to kill people’s spirit. There are some exceptions like python on free node which is heavily moderated, but by and large (in my nearly 15 years of heavy IRCing)…
Wait, you think #python on Freenode is a friendly place? It's consistently the worst channel I've visited on IRC. The language is fantastic though.
It is worth noting that IRC is in the middle of overhaul and upgrade with IRCv3 [1] standard. Sadly not many clients and servers support it (almost none of them). [1] https://www.ircv3.net
It is worth nothing that IRCv3 is a coup d'etat made by a closed coven of developers: Most IRC clients are slowly developed or almost dead these days; the modus operandi of the IRCv3 developers is that they write patches for those IRC clients to support IRCv3 features and then push hard for the maintainers of those clients to merge them ("this is what the future of irc looks like! it's what the other clients are impl…
Actually, I still think most IRC clients stale as f* even with IRCv3, for example embedding images and videos in chats should be trivial but I've yet to see a Linux desktop client do it (without sacrificing other features). IRCv3 doesn't also fix client certificate updating, though neither does any client handle client certs nicely so it's a sweet dream of mine to see auto-updated client certs.
very cool. I started with IRC circa 92, on a VAX VMS system after discovering it using Gopher :) Was great, though very addictive. The internet wasn't very well known, and not many people were online, and it was very common to make friends all around the world. I travelled and met a lot of people all over the world through IRC. I remember quite a number of people starting relationships and having babies ( many of whi…
> Then it started to die off with the rise of the web and alternative chat software. That's news to me and the ~eight IRC networks I'm on.
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sure.... I still use it. But now IRC is much much more fringe, somewhat like usenet, ftp, telnet, etc is very fringe these days. It used to be like THE social networking tool. Somewhat like facebook. Maybe one day facebook too will be used by developers to communicate while everyone else is in virtual worlds
In my opinion the reasons for loss of userbase & mindshare: 1 Spam and noise -> No proper authentication and moderating system for channels. It's hard to keep bad agents out of channels. 2 Competition -> Forums had more features (including a solution for point 1, also https) and didn't require a special client. If you could easily send cat gifs in chats IRC would have been great.
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Names are different. They're given to us by a person's choice. Gender is an intrinsic part of us from the moment of conception, which no one has a choice in at that moment, and it's a permanent attribute.
Please stop, both of you.
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Someday when there's a universal way to share files between people on a network without passwords FTP might die. So far it is the least painful way of having a place people can just dump files to and grab files from without authentication.
Unfortunately, as of today, the majority of "computer operators" struggle to share a file if it requires more than a single operation of "drag/drop".
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> Then it started to die off with the rise of the web and alternative chat software. That's news to me and the ~eight IRC networks I'm on.
With how many members? Even the most niche discord channels will likely have more users than your 8 IRC channels.
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Because the last thing organizations eant to do is host their own infra for a chat, implement their own search for a chat, re-implement the bits, the hooks, the integrations for a chat etc.?
Hosting things on their own infrastructure is very popular for large companies. They tend to take security a lot more serious that the average startup.
Love IRC. But what client should I use on my telephone?