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Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Apparently its not a mystery: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/mystery-of-purple-...

This is an essential read for folks who are wondering what it is. That said, my favorite crackpot theory that I read was that it was aliens burning down the ozone layer in preparation for an invasion. The most interesting speculative idea was that it was tied to the impending pole shift (as the poles weaken it extends the aurora south).

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Perhaps it was noctilucent clouds? See e.g https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SpaceX_Noctilucent_Clou...

Thanks for the link, I learned something! But that doesn't fit because it was in winter and in the dead middle of the night, somewhere between Canada and Iceland.

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Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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"Steve does not contain the telltale traces of charged particles blasting through Earth's atmosphere that auroras do. Steve, therefore, is not an aurora at all"

Amazing what you can learn when you read the article

Why read if others have read it already and now all the answers?

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Alright, so for decades Steve was called aurora as well, possibly for ages by natives observing it; yet now scientists decided to slap another sticker on it as the original scientific aurora explanation doesn't fit this class of what was traditionally called aurora as well; and we ended up with 'Steve'...

It's reminiscent of the second moon they named "George" in Dhalgren.

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Saw something like this in Alaska in the late 90's driving south towards Glenallen on a youth hockey road trip. It was a localized spot of purple/blue Aurora. Came out of nowhere, the shapes looked like a cauldron of boiling water but in bright colors. Everyone in the van saw it. Always figured it was an experiment from this remote HAARP research facility that fires radio waves at the ionosphere. https://en.wikipedia…

I have also experienced a strange Aurora phenomenon. My first year living up north I was lucky enough to catch the northern lights. They were gray (not green) but really fun. A kind of camo-patterened pulsing, flickering in and out, with ripples that would move through it.

Eventually they moved from the northern horizon to entirely overhead, and even into the southern horizon. The overall pattern continued: pulses of circles fading in and out like blinking neon light, with waves crashing through and across the entire thing, slowly. Still gray, never green.

Then I noticed that the waves would all "sink" into a single spot in the sky. Directly overhead was a "dark spot" in the borealis, and it moved around slightly and had this wicked looking "interference" pattern around it, like what you'd expect to see with two magnets interfering.

Over and over the waves would ripple from the north and "sink" into this dark spot. The hole itself seemed to pulse as the waves moved around and ultimately into it. Kind of felt like it was a kind of magnetic pole. Not sure. The aurora itself (patterns of blinking, pulsing, shimmering) continued into the southern sky, but the dark hole was right overhead.

I haven't been able to really find anyone else who has experienced this. Just wanted to share.

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Saw something like this in Alaska in the late 90's driving south towards Glenallen on a youth hockey road trip. It was a localized spot of purple/blue Aurora. Came out of nowhere, the shapes looked like a cauldron of boiling water but in bright colors. Everyone in the van saw it. Always figured it was an experiment from this remote HAARP research facility that fires radio waves at the ionosphere. https://en.wikipedia…

Thanks for sharing your comment. Whenever I read this kind of thing I'm reminded of the 1561 celestial event over Nuremburg[0] and I hope we can a) see more of these kinds of events and b) really start digging into their nature. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over...

OK what's the deal with that? Or this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1566_celestial_phenomenon_over...

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Yes, that's correct. At 300km, Steve would be situated within the thermosphere [1] > The highly diluted gas in this layer can reach 2,500 °C (4,530 °F) during the day. Even though the temperature is so high, one would not feel warm in the thermosphere, because it is so near vacuum that there is not enough contact with the few atoms of gas to transfer much heat. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermosphere Edit: typ…

If you were out there during the day you probably warm up a bit though right? with very little in the way of air to draw heat away.

The air in this case is what's at high temperature so it wouldn't be drawing anything away at all. You'd still lose heat through infrared radiation. I'm not sure which effect would be greater.

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Saw something like this in Alaska in the late 90's driving south towards Glenallen on a youth hockey road trip. It was a localized spot of purple/blue Aurora. Came out of nowhere, the shapes looked like a cauldron of boiling water but in bright colors. Everyone in the van saw it. Always figured it was an experiment from this remote HAARP research facility that fires radio waves at the ionosphere. https://en.wikipedia…

I have also experienced a strange Aurora phenomenon. My first year living up north I was lucky enough to catch the northern lights. They were gray (not green) but really fun. A kind of camo-patterened pulsing, flickering in and out, with ripples that would move through it. Eventually they moved from the northern horizon to entirely overhead, and even into the southern horizon. The overall pattern continued: pulses of…

I have seen something similar. A spectacular display in the mid-90's in February at Big Trout Lake Ontario; I watched it from the lake on the winter road. The entire sky would react to waves of energy, and there was a dark hole - as you described - in the middle of the sky. I have never seen such a dramatic display of aurora, with such strange patterns (vs the typical whisps of light) before or after.

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Saw something like this in Alaska in the late 90's driving south towards Glenallen on a youth hockey road trip. It was a localized spot of purple/blue Aurora. Came out of nowhere, the shapes looked like a cauldron of boiling water but in bright colors. Everyone in the van saw it. Always figured it was an experiment from this remote HAARP research facility that fires radio waves at the ionosphere. https://en.wikipedia…

I have also experienced a strange Aurora phenomenon. My first year living up north I was lucky enough to catch the northern lights. They were gray (not green) but really fun. A kind of camo-patterened pulsing, flickering in and out, with ripples that would move through it. Eventually they moved from the northern horizon to entirely overhead, and even into the southern horizon. The overall pattern continued: pulses of…

Depending on where you were, it might have actually been the Earth's north magnetic pole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Magnetic_Pole

Edit to add that the aurora happens in the upper atmosphere, so its interaction with the magnetic pole would be visible over long distances of the Earth's surface.

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Apparently its not a mystery: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/mystery-of-purple-...

The article says we've "solved" it, but later on it says:

> Steve is an important discovery because of its location in the sub auroral zone, an area of lower latitude than where most auroras appear that is not well researched. For one, with this discovery, scientists now know there are unknown chemical processes taking place in the sub auroral zone that can lead to this light emission.

> Second, Steve consistently appears in the presence of auroras, which usually occur at a higher latitude area called the auroral zone. That means there is something happening in near-Earth space that leads to both an aurora and Steve. Steve might be the only visual clue that exists to show a chemical or physical connection between the higher latitude auroral zone and lower latitude sub auroral zone, said MacDonald.

Essentially, we still don't know what exactly is happening.

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