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Re: Who needs democracy when you have data?

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Post by beat » Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 1:32 PM UTC

bopbop wrote: post #110

beat wrote: post #109

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Nah. All sorts of things are done right by governments that I find distasteful and wouldn't vote for. For a coarse example, they're not abolishing laws against murder. That's good, because I want murder to be illegal. The area of agreement between the two parties in the US is much broader than the areas of disagreement. But I was talking about compromise. And an unwillingness to tolerate compromise in our leaders was…

Right, I get your previous comment now. I would agree with it if it where: "Democracy generally means I am being governed according to some, but not all of my wishes." The fact that you are/are not being governed according to some of your wishes in a non-democratic society is coincidental. Why it may or may not be true for any given government, it is not inherent to the structure of any non-democratic government. For…

Yeah, I think underneath it all, one of my points is that whether or not I'm being governed according to my wishes isn't really a function of democracy. A lot of people live in authoritarian societies where they quite agree with the main thrust of the government.

As an aside on the Hillary thing... something that frustrates me as a Democrat is that we're supposed to be the party of learning and evolving, but then we punish people for opinions held and mistakes made decades ago. I want our candidates to evolve. I've certainly evolved.

Re: Who needs democracy when you have data?

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Post by SnakeBallzz » Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 4:32 PM UTC

Anyone who does not see that America will soon be like China (Totalitarian) is just plain stupid! Who needs democracy when you have data?: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611815/who-needs-democrac... Just look at how we have all of these cameras and Alexa devices in our houses. And our phones that track our every move. Look at Tesla cars with all of their tracking tech. It`s ALL conditioning to prepare us for TOTALITARIANISM.

Re: Who needs democracy when you have data?

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Post by Fnoord » Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 6:36 PM UTC

throwawayjava wrote: post #93

_bxg1 wrote: post #63

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"I'm not sure about China wielding more influence than the U.S. That sort of thing is really hard to predict accurately, especially from the perspective of someone who isn't a world leader privy to all available information." I think at the end of the day it just comes down to the numbers. With four times the population, they have four times the market of consumers and four times the workforce to create value. The U.…

> but China has recently taken up a very potent type of hybrid economic development, where free-market startup-culture is encouraged, but guided and pruned by the government. I don't think the USA gets enough credit for inventing this hybrid economic development system. Good examples include: * Military computing -> Intel, IBM, etc. -> Moore's law * DARPA cash -> early networking/PC projects at universities -> hacker…

Google and Apple and Microsoft and Facebook and Amazon are each American companies who do business in Europe. I, as European, get very little out of that though because they dodge taxes.