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Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Incredibly it's still not generally banned in the USA; only a small list of products are banned by the EPA federally.[0] It was increasingly banned in Europe from the mid 1980s, and totally banned throughout the EU in 2005.[1] Like everything else, everything is deadly at large doses. Even water. Alcohol clearly causes stomach cancer too at large doses, yet alcohol is not banned, right? If we were to ban everything…

everything is deadly at large doses ... if we were to ban everything that leads to a certain point of toxicity, we would not be able to live with anything around us No, that's not how this works. The salient point here, is that we know about specific things which are predominantly non-essential, and atrociously bad for everyone . Lead. Asbestos. Cigarette smoke. DDT. Plutonium. This list is not exhaustive. Believe it…

Relative Risk

The problem with DDT was that while it didn't cause significant problems for people (at the concentrations used), it caused huge problems for birds (thinned shells). At the same time it wiped out the mosquito carrying malaria along the gulf coast. The ecologic side effects were terrible, but in many cases human risk may well have been reduced.

Some asbestos is extremely dangerous, some is not (it depends on their chemical composition and microstructure)... using the same name for all of them is not helpful to safety, nor is declaring all of them dangerous.

There is Plutonium in the Pacific ocean. Should we guard the ocean, ban swimming in the ocean, ban fish caught in the ocean? Why, when sun exposure is much more likely to kill you with carcinoma than ocean plutonium?

I definitely am still going to go outside during the day even though the dangeous sun is irradiating me. I'm going to eat toast with dangerous acrylamide.

...And I'm not taking off the dangerous lead weights ballencing my tire rims on the drive to work, because I want to live.

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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So what is the definition of aurora that causes it to not also encompass Steve.

"Steve does not contain the telltale traces of charged particles blasting through Earth's atmosphere that auroras do. Steve, therefore, is not an aurora at all"

Amazing what you can learn when you read the article

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Saw something like this in Alaska in the late 90's driving south towards Glenallen on a youth hockey road trip. It was a localized spot of purple/blue Aurora. Came out of nowhere, the shapes looked like a cauldron of boiling water but in bright colors. Everyone in the van saw it. Always figured it was an experiment from this remote HAARP research facility that fires radio waves at the ionosphere. https://en.wikipedia…

Thanks for sharing your comment. Whenever I read this kind of thing I'm reminded of the 1561 celestial event over Nuremburg[0] and I hope we can a) see more of these kinds of events and b) really start digging into their nature.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over...

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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>But in reality the current system doesn't work and needs constant massive bailouts and public funding R&D to just barely operate for the minority.. Says an HN comment.. Maybe try to rework this sentence, because it doesn't appear to be true. While things may not be excellent for everyone, clearly the "system" works to some extent. >The entire point of the current economic system is to motivate the masses to enrich t…

>Maybe try to rework this sentence The current state of our market system requires massive bailouts and massive funding into research and development, massive subsidies (e.g. arms), and an overworked and underpaid workforce to limp along and pay out a healthy dividend to the richest(few) investors. >source on this? Just look at any multi billion dollar company; whats the difference between shareholder payout and work…

If somebody else is making 100x off of just your work you need to quit yesterday and find somebody to pay you 2x what you are currently making. They will be more than happy to do so as they will still be making a 50x profit on you.

Either that or you have absolutely no clue as to how much value you actually create for your company. Nobody generates 100x profit, not even slaves.

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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I remember seeing one of those on a night flight from the US to Europe. The pilot pointed it out on the PA and was puzzled as to what it was. It looked like a thin line of clouds illuminated by a super bright moon… except there was no moon that night and it was way higher than where clouds are supposed to be. Color was a silvery white.

Perhaps it was noctilucent clouds? See e.g https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SpaceX_Noctilucent_Clou...

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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Apparently its not a mystery: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/mystery-of-purple-...

That's addressed in the article.

Contrary to the findings from the Steve study published earlier this year, the satellite did not detect any charged particles raining down toward Earth's magnetic-field lines, indicating that whatever created Steve did not follow the same rules as the solar particles that create the aurora.

Re: Eerie Skyglow Called 'Steve' Isn't an Aurora, Is 'Completely Unknown' to Science

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I remember seeing one of those on a night flight from the US to Europe. The pilot pointed it out on the PA and was puzzled as to what it was. It looked like a thin line of clouds illuminated by a super bright moon… except there was no moon that night and it was way higher than where clouds are supposed to be. Color was a silvery white.

Perhaps it was noctilucent clouds? See e.g https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SpaceX_Noctilucent_Clou...

Thanks for the link, I learned something!

But that doesn't fit because it was in winter and in the dead middle of the night, somewhere between Canada and Iceland.

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