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AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Post by zaarn »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #59

Wouldn't use Digital Ocean for shit, there are multiple stories of users were they cancelled accounts (actual production systems) because of sustained use or bogus DMCA claims.

I wouldn't use a service for VPS either if they reacted to DMCA/Takedown Notice claims. As the operator of the server on that VPS the DMCA/Takedown Notice is my business not the providers.

Otherwise it's a way to convenient method to cripple the competition or shut someone's personal website down for shits and giggles.

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Post by krn »

blunte wrote: post #43
krn wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OVH provides Cloud Database[1], but only up to 4 GB RAM / 64 GB storage. [1] https://www.ovh.co.uk/cloud/cloud-databases/

OVH is a horrible company if anything goes wrong or if you have a billing issue. Their tech and pricing may be good, but if there's any problem you'll spend a lot of time trying to deal with them or you'll just give up a let your wasted payment fly away...

OVH is dirty cheap, because it is a fully automated service, and if you are using it for anything serious, you need to order a VIP support package[1]. People complain about their terrible support without realizing, that they only paid for the infrastructure, which costs 10x less than AWS.

[1] https://www.ovh.co.uk/support/

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Post by chomp »

zaarn wrote: post #61
dna_polymerase wrote: post #59

Wouldn't use Digital Ocean for shit, there are multiple stories of users were they cancelled accounts (actual production systems) because of sustained use or bogus DMCA claims.

I wouldn't use a service for VPS either if they reacted to DMCA/Takedown Notice claims. As the operator of the server on that VPS the DMCA/Takedown Notice is my business not the providers. Otherwise it's a way to convenient method to cripple the competition or shut someone's personal website down for shits and giggles.

Yeah but that's not how the law works. A service provider risks losing its safe harbor status if it delegates a DMCA complaint to a party and then that DMCA complaint is ignored. Providers have an incentive to shut down services on the terms of the DMCA to protect their business. And even if you have a registered copyright agent for your business and a form on your site to report infringement, lawyers love to blast out DMCA claims to you, your agent, and your provider, as high in the chain as they can go. It's a huge headache.

Do you colo, or use non-US based providers?

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Post by zaarn »

chomp wrote: post #63
zaarn wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't use a service for VPS either if they reacted to DMCA/Takedown Notice claims. As the operator of the server on that VPS the DMCA/Takedown Notice is my business not the providers. Otherwise it's a way to convenient method to cripple the competition or shut someone's personal website down for shits and giggles.

Yeah but that's not how the law works. A service provider risks losing its safe harbor status if it delegates a DMCA complaint to a party and then that DMCA complaint is ignored. Providers have an incentive to shut down services on the terms of the DMCA to protect their business. And even if you have a registered copyright agent for your business and a form on your site to report infringement, lawyers love to blast o…

I'm not in the US and use a non-US based provider.

The EU notice&takedown procedure does not entail that you loose protection for simply forwarding such notices, all that matters if someone responsible is actually reading the contents. If I don't give a shit about the notice then you can send a C&D and if I still don't give a shit, you can sue me. Or you make someone at my provider somehow care.

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Post by dx034 »

candiodari wrote: post #6

Kimsufi has dedicated servers starting at 5$ per month. Yes, it's an atom, but it's yours alone, and is going to beat these on performance, memory and riskspace.

Why not use Hetzner cloud instead? It's shared but with ECC ram and faster CPU & storage

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Post by dancodes »

sgzfx wrote: post #39
eahman09 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe OVH, Scaleway and Hetzner are better than DO and Linode in that regard.

My experience with Scaleway is that most of the time things are fine, but over 2-3 years there have been multiple very very annoying outages that have made me want to go back to DO, where I've had no issues whatsoever. Also, I'm not sure if it's just me being an idiot or not - but sometimes my instances have become unresponsive and I've had to reboot them with a newer bootscript from the Scaleway UI to get them worki…

Got the same experience with Scaleway. Suddently unresponsive instances which had to be rebooted manually. That's a no-go!

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Post by indigodaddy »

hyperfekt wrote: post #60
aepiepaey wrote: post #31

On the far low end, BuyVM has a $15/year plan (1 core, 128M ram, 15G disk, 500G bandwidth). Has been working well so far (a few years), though haven't really been close to any resource limits (yet).

Depending what core that is, you get more on the Google Cloud free tier (600MB RAM, 30GB disk). But: only 30GB outgoing bandwidth.

Thought it was 1G transfer max (not sure which direction or both)

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Post by jarland »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #59

Wouldn't use Digital Ocean for shit, there are multiple stories of users were they cancelled accounts (actual production systems) because of sustained use or bogus DMCA claims.

I'm sorry you feel that way. We always try to work with our customers to resolve disputes in the best way possible. There are two sides to every story and we do respect the privacy of our customers. If you would like to talk about anything specific that you are concerned about, I'd be happy to chat at jdonnell@digitalocean.com.
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