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Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by kevinschumacher »

dorkwood wrote: post #170
newswriter99 wrote: post #5

Takes three paragraphs to get to the answer: Instagram stories. Snapschat is busy trying to remain relevant as Instagram one-ups it again and again. Other than teenagers using it to sext, Snapchat is largely useless compared to Insta.

To me they’re entirely different products. I use Snapchat to send funny things I see to specific friends who will find them funny. I can’t do that on Instagram without broadcasting that same message to over 100 people.

Instagram actually cloned snapchat in its app. You can send direct messages now. Photos, videos, filters, drawing, text, emoji, everything. Photo and videos can be sent to be viewed once/replayed (like snapchat), or persisted in the chat log.

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by petre »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #123
derefr wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the discovery mechanism that's unique to Facebook. Other messaging services: tell someone your username on it (when you ever happen to run into them again, I guess.) Facebook Messenger: search for their name on Facebook, find the one with the right profile picture, hit "send message." Facebook is the modern-day White Pages, except for the entire planet. And that's the part that makes it so hard to "quit Facebook…

Heh, you've given me a great idea for a weekend project (a free directory where you can put your info in, and you'll show up in Google search results). Think Gravatar, but for all of your contact info.

If it's successful it will be bought and become evil. Gavatar tracks its users. It's blocked in my browser. If it's federated then maybe it won't become another Facebook.

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by josephjrobison »

bduerst wrote: post #98
newswriter99 wrote: post #5

Takes three paragraphs to get to the answer: Instagram stories. Snapschat is busy trying to remain relevant as Instagram one-ups it again and again. Other than teenagers using it to sext, Snapchat is largely useless compared to Insta.

Google+ tried to copy facebook functionality too, right? While instagram already has the users, I think the point is that you can build it, but you can't make people use it. Instagram can prevent existing users from leaving snapchat for 'stories', but will it really entice snapchat users to come over to instagram, given that social networks are a function of people who use it?

Instagram Stories daily active users is 400 million. [1]

Snapchat dau is 188 million. Given that this declined from 191 million from Q1 2018, seems Instagram is crushing them.

Anecdotally I’m surprised Snapchat is even doing this well. Before Instagram Stories I had probably 50 people a day posting new Snapchat stories. Now it’s a handful a week. They’re all on Instagram.

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/730315/instagram-stories...

[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/545967/snapchat-app-dau/...

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by inferiorhuman »

Maro wrote: post #64

Based on my brief time at FB (in 2016-2017), FB is not evil. MZ is trying to do the right thing, overall. Using this as a major piece of positioning/propaganda is not going to work for Spiegel. Also, if they ever want to make money, they'll be playing the exact same game as FB. That's going to be tough, as by now Snapchat is just a feature (of FB). Also, I can tell you, FB employees are laser focused on executing and…

> MZ is trying to do the right thing, overall.

Since when? This is at the top of my Reddit front page right now:

https://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-okay-but-youve...

The lede:

> Last week, we reported that, as a sophomore at Harvard, Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg used Facebook members' login information to break into their private email accounts and read their emails.

Yes, it's an old story, but Zuck has been very plainly amoral for a long time now.

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Post by Rjevski »

partiallypro wrote: post #159
jandrese wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certainly their core business model of teens sexting is still strong?

Hard to monetize that without going against the grain of also being a family platform.

Does everything need to be a family platform? A bit of an extreme example, but the adult entertainment industry seems to do fine without catering to families - I don't see why Snapchat couldn't do the same?

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by puranjay »

lolive wrote: post #55

Apart from the title, I do not see any argument why Twitter is a to-be-replaced social network. Personnaly, I see it as a wonderful way to keep track of the topics of interest of people I do not know personnally . Plus I can comment, and these people can comment back. Sounds good to me.

I like following people on Twitter. But man, the moment you open the comments to their tweets, I want to nope out of there completely.

Twitter's community is incredibly toxic

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by joshvm »

newswriter99 wrote: post #5

Takes three paragraphs to get to the answer: Instagram stories. Snapschat is busy trying to remain relevant as Instagram one-ups it again and again. Other than teenagers using it to sext, Snapchat is largely useless compared to Insta.

Disagree. Currently helping run a summer camp with lots of Big component of these apps is the group dynamic. Plays well with the current culture of social capital, messages can be easily broadcast, rated, commented on, shared around. But you also have the option of things being semi-ephemeral.

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by toomuchtodo »

Rjevski wrote: post #177
partiallypro wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to monetize that without going against the grain of also being a family platform.

Does everything need to be a family platform? A bit of an extreme example, but the adult entertainment industry seems to do fine without catering to families - I don't see why Snapchat couldn't do the same?

It's about the audience. Snapchat advertisers don't want to be associated with adult content. Adult entertainers are catering to their paying audience.
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