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AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Why is there only 3 providers there ? This should probably include others like OVH, Scaleway, Vultr,

> OVH

Never again. Control panel is awful, closing your account requires jumping through all kinds of hoops (emailing a scan of your passport, really?). I still haven't succeeded.

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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What does "Consistent 100% CPU usage" means? Does it mean that if I get the instance and use CPU on 100% it will shut it down?

No, lightsail is less well documented; but are based on EC2 burstable instances. These have a baseline performance where you can use 5%-30% of the CPU, and accrue credits to burst up to using 100% for short periods.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/t2-credi...

If you are out of credits your CPU is just slower, you don't get turned off.

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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On the far low end, BuyVM has a $15/year plan (1 core, 128M ram, 15G disk, 500G bandwidth). Has been working well so far (a few years), though haven't really been close to any resource limits (yet).

That's really cheap, you couldn't even run a RPi at home for that.

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Why is there only 3 providers there ? This should probably include others like OVH, Scaleway, Vultr,

Also hetzner cloud I dont know about the cores that hetzner provides and how they compare to the competitors, but ~3$ for a somewhat usable VPS is damn competetive (not affiliated with hetzner in any way, other than I have one of those 3$ instances)

Is use their CX21 (4GB RAM, 40GB NVMe/Ceph) offering for 4.90€ + VAT as a personal VPS and it makes running a little FreeBSD instance with ZFS and self-compiled ports affordable for a student.

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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On the far low end, BuyVM has a $15/year plan (1 core, 128M ram, 15G disk, 500G bandwidth). Has been working well so far (a few years), though haven't really been close to any resource limits (yet).

What do you use it for?

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If all you're interested in comparing is price, then yes it is still expensive, but there are other considerations such as network quality, support responsiveness, the actual performance of the VPS.

Maybe OVH, Scaleway and Hetzner are better than DO and Linode in that regard.

In my experience OVH support is completely useless.. you have to wait for ages before having a response, and when you get it, it's useless...

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scaleaway is meaningless unless you're located in Europe. If you're in the developed world, $2 vs $5 etc does not matter in most cases. The most important factor is that your host does what you need it to do, that the network is excellent and your servers are located where you need them to be. If you're an American business you'd be foolish to host your servers in the EU. Locating your servers in the EU opens you up…

I am European and it's 11 here; I'm talking to an European audience. OVH has got a datacenter in Canada with good prices, compared to the rip-off Linode is.

Your point about OVH still falls flat for a US audience, unless saving a few dollars is a critical concern.

$20 for 4gb of ram, 4tb of bandwidth and 2 cpus at Linode is a rip-off? I guess if someone were quite lacking in funds and needed the absolute most cut-rate VPS prices they can get, it might be viewed as a rip-off. That's a legitimate issue if so, sure. By all counts Linode in fact provides a tremendous service at a low cost, as with DigitalOcean. I'm guessing that for most people, $3 vs $7 (or a similar ratio) simply doesn't matter very much, especially when you consider laws and latency.

To compete fully, Scaleaway and OVH will eventually need multiple US data centers, otherwise the price gap by itself isn't going to be enough and the world's largest economy will remain the domain of DO/Linode/Amazon/etc. Those companies already know they'll have to charge more for service in the US, which is why they don't already have lots of US data centers after all these years, they have no competitive advantage to bring to the table.

Again, if you locate in Canada you're opening yourself up to multiple jurisdiction compliance. You're going to have to comply with both Canadian and US laws in that case if you're a US business. The complexity and burden of doing so will only continue to expand.

Saving a few dollars by locating with OVH in Canada might be fine if you're just running a test setup and have no intentions of running a real business on it.

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If all you're interested in comparing is price, then yes it is still expensive, but there are other considerations such as network quality, support responsiveness, the actual performance of the VPS.

Maybe OVH, Scaleway and Hetzner are better than DO and Linode in that regard.

My experience with Scaleway is that most of the time things are fine, but over 2-3 years there have been multiple very very annoying outages that have made me want to go back to DO, where I've had no issues whatsoever.

Also, I'm not sure if it's just me being an idiot or not - but sometimes my instances have become unresponsive and I've had to reboot them with a newer bootscript from the Scaleway UI to get them working again.

Will definitely be trying out Lightsail now. Good opportunity for me to familiarize myself with the AWS ecosystem.

Re: AWS cuts in half the price of most of its Lightsail virtual private servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first section explained what kind of VPS were collected. Vultr sometimes charge estimated monthly costs ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13073048 ) , so it was not listed.

I've been using Vultr for years and they've never charged me more than my monthly usage. A n=1 report from two years ago doesn't seem like a great reason to leave them out; I'm sure you can find complaints about every other provider's billing as well.

I was charged that way in March this year. Then I googled and found that they do such thing often.
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