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What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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People talk about blockchain and ML/AI as the revolutionary technologies of the day, but I think public manipulation via the Internet (social media at least, probably more) may turn out to be more significant.

Is it real and does it work? Undoubtedly, there are people who believe it works and invest a lot of resources in it, from businesses to political movements to governments (Russia and China, for example). We can see that disinformation can be effectively spread, and it seems hatred and other things as well. Arguably, we can see it to a degree in Facebook's and Google's (and others') valuations. We discuss it, from a different perspective, on HN regularly. But what are the technical details of this new tool: In what situations does it work and in what does it not? How powerful is it? How much does it cost? How does it work on a detailed level? What are the key components of this machine? Is anyone talking - we know it's done widely, so it seems that information about this technology should be available. (I'm not asking for speculation - we have heard plenty of that - I'm looking for actual technical knowledge.)

Another way of looking at it: Perhaps it's analogous to the Creel Commission - innovations in manipulation via a new communication technology.

For example, how did Amazon and others turn around Seattle's new tax so quickly and effectively? IIRC, it was widely supported and then public opinion reversed itself in a matter of months.

Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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>Their most frequent topics of conversation are how they get bathroom breaks, the pleasant temperature of the warehouses, the excellent benefits and suitable wages, friendly management and how the job isn’t monotonous or tiring at all. In other words, they took a list of everything everyone complains about, and just decided to refute them point by point in the most condescendingly Orwellian way possible, rather than…

...it sounds like they did fix them? People used to complain about not getting bathroom breaks and unpleasant temperatures. Either they're lying, or they did fix those things and are informing people of it.

Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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post #13

>Their most frequent topics of conversation are how they get bathroom breaks, the pleasant temperature of the warehouses, the excellent benefits and suitable wages, friendly management and how the job isn’t monotonous or tiring at all. In other words, they took a list of everything everyone complains about, and just decided to refute them point by point in the most condescendingly Orwellian way possible, rather than…

...it sounds like they did fix them? People used to complain about not getting bathroom breaks and unpleasant temperatures. Either they're lying, or they did fix those things and are informing people of it.

> it sounds like they did fix them

On what basis? All we have is PR talking points presented, deceptively, as genuine opinions of real employees. That doesn't seem like evidence.

Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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People talk about blockchain and ML/AI as the revolutionary technologies of the day, but I think public manipulation via the Internet (social media at least, probably more) may turn out to be more significant. Is it real and does it work? Undoubtedly, there are people who believe it works and invest a lot of resources in it, from businesses to political movements to governments (Russia and China, for example). We can…

I believe Snowden shined a light at some of the disinformation programs that are operated by the govt. I know for a fact these types of campaigns exist on a regular basis on a grand scale.

Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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In Amazon’s early days(pre Twitter obviously) there were plenty of warehouse workers who could have written far better tweets that sound less Borg Collective-y

What do you mean? Are you saying that Amazon warehouse employees were treated better back then? What makes you say that?

Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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I'm fairly certain these are satire and not actually affiliated with Amazon at all. Just the bio alone seems to give it away: https://twitter.com/fc_ambassador/with_replies Maybe only this one is satire? Hard to tell which level of galaxy brain this is.

That one certainly seems like satire, but the ones in the article do not, e.g. https://twitter.com/AmazonFCCarol

Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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post #13

>Their most frequent topics of conversation are how they get bathroom breaks, the pleasant temperature of the warehouses, the excellent benefits and suitable wages, friendly management and how the job isn’t monotonous or tiring at all. In other words, they took a list of everything everyone complains about, and just decided to refute them point by point in the most condescendingly Orwellian way possible, rather than…

...it sounds like they did fix them? People used to complain about not getting bathroom breaks and unpleasant temperatures. Either they're lying, or they did fix those things and are informing people of it.

>...it sounds like they did fix them?

Kind of to a point.

People get bathroom breaks, but those count against your rate, and people do sometimes get written up for taking them, although that's as much a matter of Amazon encouraging ruthlessness in management as anything. I know of one anecdotal story of a worker who was apparently written up for the time it took them to clean up after their own nosebleed.

In the FC where I work, the temperatures are definitely not pleasant, but HR insists we simply aren't aware of how perfect the climate control is.

I think it's one of those things that depends on where you work and who you work under.

Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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post #29

I'm fairly certain these are satire and not actually affiliated with Amazon at all. Just the bio alone seems to give it away: https://twitter.com/fc_ambassador/with_replies Maybe only this one is satire? Hard to tell which level of galaxy brain this is.

I'm pretty sure that one's satire, probably in response to this article. I looked at a few others in the search results, and they didn't seem to be satire.

Re: What is this Twitter army of Amazon drones cheerfully defending warehouse work?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

...it sounds like they did fix them? People used to complain about not getting bathroom breaks and unpleasant temperatures. Either they're lying, or they did fix those things and are informing people of it.

> it sounds like they did fix them On what basis? All we have is PR talking points presented, deceptively, as genuine opinions of real employees. That doesn't seem like evidence.

Maybe the bots have infiltrated HN, too?
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