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Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by toomuchtodo »

derefr wrote: post #144
toomuchtodo wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you call it? Imagine it's not just a publisher to Google, but you could land on the directory through a domain. Something about being a planetary directory.

The parent was probably being facetious (they're saying that you're sort of Greenspunning Facebook.) Nevertheless, services like this already exist. https://about.me , for example. "Vanity website" is the generic term, I think. It's essentially a one-page business card that you can register a domain for. The difference between these services, and Facebook, is that people sign up for Facebook and fill out their contac…

Thanks.

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Post by CydeWeys »

rohit2412 wrote: post #146
komali2 wrote: post #139

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Are my emails and text messages not being tracked? My postcards? My telephone calls are definitely being listened to, we know that thanks to Snowden, particularly anybody that talks a lot about stuff the Government doesn't want us talking about. Whether it's the gov or FB or Google, I assume someone is listening in. When it's time for secure communication, I reach for something like Signal. Otherwise, I'll go for wha…

Bring listened to by the government is very different from being psychologically manipulated by political parties.

Honestly, I'd rather be snooped on by a corporation for advertising purposes than snooped on by the government for worse purposes.

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by groestl »

petra wrote: post #109
Maro wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a great time on FB/Messenger. It's a tool, it's up to everybody to use it in a way that is a net positive for them. I have friends/acquintances in 10+ cities, and it's a great way to keep in touch. As you mention, this "way" is very different then if we would meet in person, but that is out of the question, as we are separated by 1,000 - 10,000 km. The alternative, on average, is not to hear anything about the…

Ideally, we will connect to far away people using tv size video conferencing , that enables eye-contact and the viewing of full body langauge - maybe creating something similar to the emotional experience of meeting people(according to research). And the tech is here , just a bit expensive. But instead we use a tool,text, that creates very little emotional connection(according to research), addicts people in all sort…

I don't think this is what people really want (most of the time). People tend to use modes of communication which are efficient (time/effort/responsiveness/exposure). They use whatever they can get away with: in person - video - telephony - text - like/reaction. I don't think manipulation plays a big part in choosing to text, people's preferences are just exploited by fb et al. for their own benefit.

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Post by 40acres »

Snap's recent performance and articles like this just solidify my view that Spigel is a bad CEO and that the Snap board has very little they can do to turn the company around. Evan seems like a great product guy but when it comes to executing as CEO he needs a lot of help. The fact that the board has not gotten a COO on board to help guide him is an indictment on them. Corporate governance in the valley continues to fall short.

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by Scarblac »

Maro wrote: post #81
samstave wrote: post #73

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The correct phrase, IMO, would be "cumulative shadiness" for FB... Individually, and within groups, the work of the employees and teams at FB is nothing short of amazing (and apple, google, etc)... cumulatively though? The nature of these companies are not in the best interests of individual users, and when looked at the power and impact the company as a whole has over any individual in specific, is pretty obviously…

I have a great time on FB/Messenger. It's a tool, it's up to everybody to use it in a way that is a net positive for them. I have friends/acquintances in 10+ cities, and it's a great way to keep in touch. As you mention, this "way" is very different then if we would meet in person, but that is out of the question, as we are separated by 1,000 - 10,000 km. The alternative, on average, is not to hear anything about the…

You can just lose touch, you know. It happens, and it doesn't make you a bad person.

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by madrox »

I once had a discussion with someone who does brand auditing for a living, and they said the brand perception of social media in general (and FB specifically) is very similar to the IRS.

Whether FB is evil or not (it's a very rare person who tries to be evil), no one loves them. People only love communities they can wrap their arms around, and past a certain size that isn't possible.

If Snapchat is lucky that'll happen to them one day, too.

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by debaserab2 »

CydeWeys wrote: post #152
rohit2412 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bring listened to by the government is very different from being psychologically manipulated by political parties.

Honestly, I'd rather be snooped on by a corporation for advertising purposes than snooped on by the government for worse purposes.

Even when the ad buyer is a foreign hostile foreign government?

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by petra »

groestl wrote: post #153
petra wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally, we will connect to far away people using tv size video conferencing , that enables eye-contact and the viewing of full body langauge - maybe creating something similar to the emotional experience of meeting people(according to research). And the tech is here , just a bit expensive. But instead we use a tool,text, that creates very little emotional connection(according to research), addicts people in all sort…

I don't think this is what people really want (most of the time). People tend to use modes of communication which are efficient (time/effort/responsiveness/exposure). They use whatever they can get away with: in person - video - telephony - text - like/reaction. I don't think manipulation plays a big part in choosing to text, people's preferences are just exploited by fb et al. for their own benefit.

>> I don't think this is what people really want (most of the time)

I'm not sure if this is true.

Let's experiment. Let's create a rewarding, addicting environment that will train people not to pay attention, not to develop social skills or empathy(research availble) , and be an easy escape from everything.

What will the result be? people will lack those skills. So for them, Social relationships will become more difficult and less satisfying - so why not use facebook instead ?

Re: Nobody Trusts Facebook, Twitter Is a Hot Mess, What Is Snapchat Doing?

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Post by partiallypro »

jandrese wrote: post #8
newswriter99 wrote: post #5

Takes three paragraphs to get to the answer: Instagram stories. Snapschat is busy trying to remain relevant as Instagram one-ups it again and again. Other than teenagers using it to sext, Snapchat is largely useless compared to Insta.

Certainly their core business model of teens sexting is still strong?

Hard to monetize that without going against the grain of also being a family platform.

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Post by partiallypro »

lolive wrote: post #55

Apart from the title, I do not see any argument why Twitter is a to-be-replaced social network. Personnaly, I see it as a wonderful way to keep track of the topics of interest of people I do not know personnally . Plus I can comment, and these people can comment back. Sounds good to me.

Twitter isn't going anywhere, it is far and above the most powerful social network. Because it's a raw data stream. As long as Jack doesn't kill it, it will live and be relevant for ages. There is no social media platform that is better for news and interacting with news makers...staying relevant to internet trends, etc. None are even close.
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