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Driverless Startup Zoox Suddenly Removes CEO

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Re: Driverless Startup Zoox Suddenly Removes CEO

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Your comment history suggests that you have some relationship with Zoox that you're not disclosing. You've commented on Zoox several times before in an overly enthusiastic manner. You've also commented several times before on autonomy and your comments have been called out for astroturfing in a couple of instances. Readers please beware and take this comment with a grain of salt.

I've been accused of working for Waymo and Cruise too, because I defend them against the unfounded bullshit you guys spread about them. And about me, too, apparently. I'm a self driving car nerd, I moderate a subreddit dedicated to the subject under the same username I have here, and I've been following the industry, the technology and it's players since the DARPA days. Relative to the rest of the industry Zoox is do…

Rock on, dude. Eff the haters. People love to make claims like above or downvote as soon as a positive comment is posted on something they don’t like or someone else comes to their enemies defense.

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So... Are you in any relationships with them?

I know a programmer who worked for BioWare in my home city who has been with Zoox for about a year. I met him once, years before he left for SF, because we have a mutual ex-girlfriend. So yeah, I'm right up in there.

Eskimo bros! You’re practically a cofounder!

Re: Driverless Startup Zoox Suddenly Removes CEO

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"Without a warning, cause or right of reply the board fired me".. There is more from Tim Kentley's twitter: https://twitter.com/TimKentleyKlay He just posted a bunch of messages he got from his team at Zoox. Seems like a lot of employees really liked him and his leadership.

"Kentley-Klay, 43, is an improbable entrant into the crowded race to develop self-driving cars. He has no engineering degree, no background in computer science. Through his early 30s, he was a successful artist and designer—creating music videos and ads for major companies like McDonald’s and Birds Eye frozen vegetables." https://www.forbes.com/feature/zoox-autonomous-cars-taxis/#1... "In a move that some will call d…

> I don't understand why you would fund someone with no tech or business background...

Maybe that was the board's plan for the initial rocky phase of the company, without telling Tim?

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"Kentley-Klay, 43, is an improbable entrant into the crowded race to develop self-driving cars. He has no engineering degree, no background in computer science. Through his early 30s, he was a successful artist and designer—creating music videos and ads for major companies like McDonald’s and Birds Eye frozen vegetables." https://www.forbes.com/feature/zoox-autonomous-cars-taxis/#1... "In a move that some will call d…

> I don't understand why you would fund someone with no tech or business background... Maybe that was the board's plan for the initial rocky phase of the company, without telling Tim?

Why would this be a good plan?

Booting a startup CEO always looks bad in my opinion and would likely concern anyone doing a follow on investment.

Re: Driverless Startup Zoox Suddenly Removes CEO

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The story that came out earlier this summer in Bloomberg was pure HBO Silicon Valley-esque hyperbole -> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-17/robot-tax... The degree I take a company seriously is inversely related to the hype spewed by these articles (see pre 10/2015 Theranos press)

> "Rather than working through the issues in an epic startup for the win, the board chose the path of fear,"

Is this a real person or a Markov chain trained on internet memes and Chicken Soup for the Soul books?

Board should've chosen the path of love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vivEzQUGHOQ

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Of what I've heard of Zoox (admittedly 2nd or 3rd hand), there definitely has been some precidence for "engineering to fit design goals" rather than "fitting design around engineering realities". Wouldn't surprise me if this non-technical CEO was part of this.

Also, wasn't this practice (i.e. engineering to fit design goals) what made Apple successful in releasing the iPod, iPhone, etc? I am an engineer but welcome the perspective of designers and believe anyway that both need to work hand in hand. In the case of driverless vehicles however, I am not sure the focus should overly be on design because this is a very hard problem that has yet to be solved, and maybe there was…

The key is that if your design goals are ambitious but achievable then you end up with a killer product. If your design goals are unrealistic or unachievable you tank what's achievable chasing a dream. Being frank the difference is probably that Steve Jobs had 30 years being a hands on expert in his field, and this guy was just some bloke who fancied building a self driving car.

All too often I've seen people set design goals when they don't understand the underlying problem. If jobs had targeted building an iPod that was physically smaller than the current smallest hard disk available he'd have been in this position.

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But hype is part of the culture. I mean, there's a company whose motto was "do no evil".

I hate to be that guy, but it was “don’t be evil” not “do no evil”. Basically meant “don’t be like Microsoft” back in those days. Very different meaning than people often assume, and not about hype. More about not letting success get to your head and using it to crush everyone else.

Glad that worked out, right? *this post best viewed in Google Chrome

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> I don't understand why you would fund someone with no tech or business background... Maybe that was the board's plan for the initial rocky phase of the company, without telling Tim?

Why would this be a good plan? Booting a startup CEO always looks bad in my opinion and would likely concern anyone doing a follow on investment.

Because you think he was good for fighting his way through the early stages of a company but doesn't show the right skillset to go the next level.
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