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Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by pvg »

factsaresacred wrote: post #53
stickfigure wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Political values are important to point out. Companies create these tech blogs as a recruitment vehicle. You should know if the company you're considering applying to is funding bigotry (or "wholesome family values" if that's your angle).

> 'Bigotry'. noun : intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself. Surely castigating the owner of Chick-fil-A for advocating his personal beliefs is the truest example of bigotry here.

You should probably not rely on Google's fairly crappy dictionary definitions.

Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by wuliwong »

siruncledrew wrote: post #2

I don't know why, but for some reason the juxtaposition of traditional, brick-and-mortar brand images with tech blogs about building modern application technologies is amusing to me. It's seeing two completely different sides of the same organization. There's 0 condescending sentiment behind it, it's just like "wow, that was unexpected."

I'm in Atlanta and have had a few discussions with people at Chik-fil-A (CFA) about joining on of their teams. I have a good friend that just moved from Intel to CFA working on business analytics. It seems like a really great place to work. And yes, whenever I mention to someone that I might be working on machine learning problems at CFA I always get a puzzled look in return. :)

Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by jessaustin »

factsaresacred wrote: post #53
stickfigure wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Political values are important to point out. Companies create these tech blogs as a recruitment vehicle. You should know if the company you're considering applying to is funding bigotry (or "wholesome family values" if that's your angle).

> 'Bigotry'. noun : intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself. Surely castigating the owner of Chick-fil-A for advocating his personal beliefs is the truest example of bigotry here.

Of course neither of those things is actually bigotry. This "oh I'm suffering" crap is disgusting. If we actually cared about suffering our freely elected government wouldn't be causing so much of it.

Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by djhworld »

I enjoyed reading this post, but came away with more questions.

They talk about providing a service for developers to deploy stuff easily, but I'm wondering how that works in practise.

I've very little experience with Kubernetes, the author mentions they run 'mini' kubernetes clusters at each restaurant. Does that mean they have to deploy software/container updates to each restaurant one by one? Or is it abstracted above that level, where they can see ALL of the restaurants as one "big" cluster?

Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by jaytaylor » 

    Since we have a highly available Kubernetes
    cluster with data replicated across all
    nodes ..
This sounds like one of the more cutting-edge bare-metal kubernetes setups I've heard of!

Curious what the kubernetes implementation / configuration looks like for the setup they've described. Particularly in terms of HA-cluster k8s configuration, networking solutions integrated, and replicated storage.

Considering there is no AWS / GCE / Azure block-storage primitive to build on, it'd be cool to understand the choices and tradeoffs made in this scenario.

Is all data being stored on something like HDFS or CockroachDB? Or perhaps the k8s minion slave nodes launch containers with Ceph volumes.

Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by ve55 »

sincerely wrote: post #54
ve55 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chik-Fil-A is not an arbiter of LGBTQ rights. Their small 6-figure donations to organizations that focus on other issues do very little in the grand scheme of things. Do you really think Chik-Fil-A is directly causing more suffering by donating to a few charities in amounts this small than by raising in captivity and then killing billions of chickens? I see no way to reasonably argue that.

Again, regardless of my personal beliefs: If I thought Chick-Fil-A shouldn't be supported for either their treatment of animals or for their anti-LGBTQ corporate giving, and wanted other people to stop supporting the business, I would focus on the latter in my messaging, because I suspect it would be more effective on the audience. Attempting to draw conclusions about which of their behaviors I personally think cause…

If your audience cares significantly about the charitable donations and not at all for animal suffering, and your goal is to only to convince them to be against the company, then sure, go for it.

But any effective altruist should have their goals set higher than this, at actually reducing the insane amount of suffering that's created. It does very little good if everyone stops supporting Chik-Fil-A only to flock to another chicken company, which will be the same in almost every way, possibly minus some donations, possibly one which treats animals even worse. Effective altruism is a very different beast than simply appealing to or signaling the crowds' most popular views on ethics in order to persuade.

Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by jessaustin »

walrus01 wrote: post #46
api wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that remain true if you grossly over-provision the SD card? Use a 64GB card for 1GB of data and you have a lot of wear leveling space.

The write lifespan in DWPD on any sd card is a tiny fraction of the expected lifespan of even a cheap $55 consumer SSD. Part of the problem is that even if you only write 1GB per day the card is highly likely to reuse the same sectors over and over.

...the card is highly likely to reuse the same sectors over and over.

One would have expected this to be an area of focus for RasPi developers? Surely some driver could be updated to avoid this?

Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by gbear605 »

walrus01 wrote: post #37

One thing I question is what kind of WAN link a single chicken fast food restaurant can get, or is economical. A lot are in places where the only last mile ISP options will be adsl2+ over copper or docsis cablemodem. I don't see it being a good use of money to spend $600/mo to pay some local ISP for a dedicated 100Mbps line on a 5 year contract. But then again it's highly likely that what they do is not bandwidth int…

Chick-fil-A also has a mobile app that allows you to order your food and pick it up either at the counter or in the drive through, so they need the internet connection for that.

Re: Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A

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Post by factsaresacred »

pvg wrote: post #61
factsaresacred wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 'Bigotry'. noun : intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself. Surely castigating the owner of Chick-fil-A for advocating his personal beliefs is the truest example of bigotry here.

You should probably not rely on Google's fairly crappy dictionary definitions.

Yes, instead of relying on dictionaries, words should mean whatever you want them to mean.
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