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Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salvage Economy

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Re: Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salvage Economy

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PSUV really needs to replace Maduro with someone more competent.

Why would you blame the head of the system rather than the underlying ideology ?

Regardless of which you blame, if you intend to change ideologies (not saying Venezuela will), then you take out the head of the current system.

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post #6

PSUV really needs to replace Maduro with someone more competent.

Why would you blame the head of the system rather than the underlying ideology ?

What underlying ideology? Socialism? There's nothing that says socialism or some form of it can't work.

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The situation in Venezuela makes my heart hurt. Reading about how Hugo Chavez destroyed PDVSA through ignorance and incompetence is a real life example of how much damage a populist strongman can do.

Me too. I worked on some good projects there a few years ago and now this. Is there somewhere a “for dummies” analysis / explanation of the chain of events and decisions that led to the current situation in Venezuela? I can’t fathom how it is possible even in the most corrupt place in the world to reach such a sorry state.

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Looking at Maduro and the clowns he surrounds himself with makes it clear that it's really just a bunch of idiots running things. Chavez was a died in the wool marxist, but the failure of that ideology (as it always does fail) has lead to a massive brain drain. Now the tenth-tier morons are in charge, nominally supporting socialism but really it's just a narco/klepto state.

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post #11
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you blame the head of the system rather than the underlying ideology ?

Regardless of which you blame, if you intend to change ideologies (not saying Venezuela will), then you take out the head of the current system.

Clarifying the mechanism here - a sign that the ideology has changed is that the head of state changes.

The Head of State generally has a substantial power base in the system in order to hold their seat. If they are ousted, it is a sign their power base has waned and the system changed.

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I wonder what is going to happen over the next year or two. Will there be a coup or revolution to overthrow the government, a bloody civil war? Or perhaps Maduro will crack down and turn the country into a full-scale Stalinist dictatorship in order to prevent this from happening. It seems there will be some sort of radical change, the question is what.

A key question here is if the security forces will remain loyal to the government. I wonder how they are making out, like are they getting enough food, and do the leaders think the present regime can be sustained over the long term.

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post #13

The situation in Venezuela makes my heart hurt. Reading about how Hugo Chavez destroyed PDVSA through ignorance and incompetence is a real life example of how much damage a populist strongman can do.

Me too. I worked on some good projects there a few years ago and now this. Is there somewhere a “for dummies” analysis / explanation of the chain of events and decisions that led to the current situation in Venezuela? I can’t fathom how it is possible even in the most corrupt place in the world to reach such a sorry state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Hugo_Ch...

In short: price controls, nationalization, high taxation, corruption, Cuban economic influence (read socialism/marxism), economic malinvestment, overspending, debt, and then printing money...

Re: Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salvage Economy

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you blame the head of the system rather than the underlying ideology ?

What underlying ideology? Socialism? There's nothing that says socialism or some form of it can't work.

Not to presume of the future, but USSR, China, Cuba, Cambodia, North Korea, to a lesser extent Romania and now Venezuella pretty much all turned the same way.

How many time should an experiment be repeated to disprove an ideology ?

Re: Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salvage Economy

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you blame the head of the system rather than the underlying ideology ?

What underlying ideology? Socialism? There's nothing that says socialism or some form of it can't work.

There's little-s socialism and big-s socialism. Social democracies like Sweden, etc., have social welfare systems bankrolled by an underlying market economy. A company in Sweden may pay high taxes, but it doesn't have to worry about being nationalized, price controls, or central planning: https://www.economist.com/special-report/2012/10/13/the-new-.... Capital will put up with high taxes. It won't put up with those other things. And without capital generating surplus to bankroll social welfare programs, your system collapses.

Re: Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salvage Economy

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post #7

The situation in Venezuela makes my heart hurt. Reading about how Hugo Chavez destroyed PDVSA through ignorance and incompetence is a real life example of how much damage a populist strongman can do.

why "populist" ? I don't think the starving Venezuelans condone the system very much. Venezuelan policies are at foremost socialist .

The support for Chavez was immense, in particular amongst the poor Venezuelans.
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