Closely related: "The Commons Clause will destroy Open Source" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17818407
Redis will remain BSD licensed
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Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#12> However in the fake news era my attempts to provide the correct information failed Eww. This actually removes credibility from the announcement, given the way the term "fake news" continues to be used to distract from objective truth.
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Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#13I’m happy to hear that Redis will remain BSD, but it’s a bit weird to play the “fake news” card. Can you really blame people for interpreting this the wrong way? Especially when the original announcement was specifically targeting cloud providers, who, afaik, are just running vanilla redis. If there is anything that we can learn from this, is that a little bit of forethought when putting these announcements out there…
Honestly my colleagues did a poor job with such an announcement there, and I did not get a chance to read it (which is actually a good thing, it means that the OSS division, I'm part of, is independent and can work to the Github repositories without caring about what the commercial side does). But it was kinda of a manifest to announce that certain things made inside Redis Labs are now Common Clause licensed. In doub…
The abbreviation "CC" will be confusing if Commons Clause got popular… We already have Creative Commons licenses.
Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly my colleagues did a poor job with such an announcement there, and I did not get a chance to read it (which is actually a good thing, it means that the OSS division, I'm part of, is independent and can work to the Github repositories without caring about what the commercial side does). But it was kinda of a manifest to announce that certain things made inside Redis Labs are now Common Clause licensed. In doub…
The abbreviation "CC" will be confusing if Commons Clause got popular… We already have Creative Commons licenses.
Agreed, fixed.
Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#15antirez: I understand your frustration and don’t mean to take away from the message, but please consider removing “fake news” from the wording. It unnecessarily politicizes the post and really leaves a bad taste.
“Fake news” is the term of art that politicians are using to criticize true stories that they don’t like.
In this case, you’re trying to correct an actual falsehood. The spreading of falsehoods and their being difficult to correct is as old as time and nothing new to this era.
Thank you for listening, and for Redis, as always.
Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#16Closely related: "The Commons Clause will destroy Open Source" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17818407
As the author of that article, I want to clarify that I was aware that Redis core was going to continue to be available as BSD and incorporated that information into my article. antirez, if you have any comments or corrections I'd be happy to include them in the article.
Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#17antirez: I understand your frustration and don’t mean to take away from the message, but please consider removing “fake news” from the wording. It unnecessarily politicizes the post and really leaves a bad taste. “Fake news” is the term of art that politicians are using to criticize true stories that they don’t like. In this case, you’re trying to correct an actual falsehood. The spreading of falsehoods and their bei…
Thanks, I removed fake news because I've the feeling that in US it is used by right-wing people, here in Italy it's the current government that is the master of fake news and is used by our left-wings to criticize what they do. In the doubt I changed the wording. I did not expect the term to be political.
Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly my colleagues did a poor job with such an announcement there, and I did not get a chance to read it (which is actually a good thing, it means that the OSS division, I'm part of, is independent and can work to the Github repositories without caring about what the commercial side does). But it was kinda of a manifest to announce that certain things made inside Redis Labs are now Common Clause licensed. In doub…
The abbreviation "CC" will be confusing if Commons Clause got popular… We already have Creative Commons licenses.
Particularly because the linked post calls it "Creative Common" twice and "Common Clause" elsewhere.
Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#19antirez: I understand your frustration and don’t mean to take away from the message, but please consider removing “fake news” from the wording. It unnecessarily politicizes the post and really leaves a bad taste. “Fake news” is the term of art that politicians are using to criticize true stories that they don’t like. In this case, you’re trying to correct an actual falsehood. The spreading of falsehoods and their bei…
Thanks, I removed fake news because I've the feeling that in US it is used by right-wing people, here in Italy it's the current government that is the master of fake news and is used by our left-wings to criticize what they do. In the doubt I changed the wording. I did not expect the term to be political.
Thank you.
Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed
#20> However in the fake news era my attempts to provide the correct information failed Eww. This actually removes credibility from the announcement, given the way the term "fake news" continues to be used to distract from objective truth.
What I mean is that even after the project leader tells you it was just some confusion, the Github project still is marked as BSD, and nothing is written in the original announcement clearly stating that Redis would switch license, it is a bit strange that the information continues to spread regardless of what I continued to say.
I understand both your meaning and frustration. But I think acjohnson55's point is that the phrase "fake news" has become a loaded term. I avoid it because it may imply things I don't want to.