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Redis will remain BSD licensed

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Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

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I’m happy to hear that Redis will remain BSD, but it’s a bit weird to play the “fake news” card. Can you really blame people for interpreting this the wrong way?

Especially when the original announcement was specifically targeting cloud providers, who, afaik, are just running vanilla redis.

If there is anything that we can learn from this, is that a little bit of forethought when putting these announcements out there is required, and blaming this on the readers is not fair.

Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

#3
> However in the fake news era my attempts to provide the correct information failed

Eww. This actually removes credibility from the announcement, given the way the term "fake news" continues to be used to distract from objective truth.

Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

#4

I’m happy to hear that Redis will remain BSD, but it’s a bit weird to play the “fake news” card. Can you really blame people for interpreting this the wrong way? Especially when the original announcement was specifically targeting cloud providers, who, afaik, are just running vanilla redis. If there is anything that we can learn from this, is that a little bit of forethought when putting these announcements out there…

The parts that I noticed were missing from the original announcement include more specifics about the parts of the system that would change licence and also whether the intention was to charge people to use these new parts. It was unclear whether the intention was to stop these cloud providers or to make them pay in some way for what they were doing.

Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

#5

I’m happy to hear that Redis will remain BSD, but it’s a bit weird to play the “fake news” card. Can you really blame people for interpreting this the wrong way? Especially when the original announcement was specifically targeting cloud providers, who, afaik, are just running vanilla redis. If there is anything that we can learn from this, is that a little bit of forethought when putting these announcements out there…

I don't think he's blaming people, but it does seem odd if he had no input at all into the Redis Labs announcement.

Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

#6

> However in the fake news era my attempts to provide the correct information failed Eww. This actually removes credibility from the announcement, given the way the term "fake news" continues to be used to distract from objective truth.

I think antirez is using it in the context of people misinterpreting some facts, followed by this misinterpretation escalating fast as a lot of people seem to think its the truth.

Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

#7

I’m happy to hear that Redis will remain BSD, but it’s a bit weird to play the “fake news” card. Can you really blame people for interpreting this the wrong way? Especially when the original announcement was specifically targeting cloud providers, who, afaik, are just running vanilla redis. If there is anything that we can learn from this, is that a little bit of forethought when putting these announcements out there…

Honestly my colleagues did a poor job with such an announcement there, and I did not get a chance to read it (which is actually a good thing, it means that the OSS division, I'm part of, is independent and can work to the Github repositories without caring about what the commercial side does). But it was kinda of a manifest to announce that certain things made inside Redis Labs are now Common Clause licensed. In doubt, why not asking? Also people that follow me and Redis for years getting trapped into this idea is very strange, I would never do that and without explaining, prior notice, and so forth. So yep the Common Clause page at Redis Labs sucked but in doubt ask instead of creating news out of no actual information.

Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

#8
> I think that Redis Labs Common Clause page did not provide a clear and complete information, but software companies often do communication errors

In their defense, many programmers can be so spiteful and cynical that basically nothing could've been done to change this "communication error."

It's helpful that Salvatore clarified, but I suspect that there are many who won't care or won't be convinced. The headline is all they needed to trip their "GTFO" line.

Personally, I think the move was fine. There are much worse companies out there.

Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

#9

> However in the fake news era my attempts to provide the correct information failed Eww. This actually removes credibility from the announcement, given the way the term "fake news" continues to be used to distract from objective truth.

I think antirez is using it in the context of people misinterpreting some facts, followed by this misinterpretation escalating fast as a lot of people seem to think its the truth.

Here's an example of a high-profile one:

https://twitter.com/antirez/status/1032271799529218048

Re: Redis will remain BSD licensed

#10

> However in the fake news era my attempts to provide the correct information failed Eww. This actually removes credibility from the announcement, given the way the term "fake news" continues to be used to distract from objective truth.

What I mean is that even after the project leader tells you it was just some confusion, the Github project still is marked as BSD, and nothing is written in the original announcement clearly stating that Redis would switch license, it is a bit strange that the information continues to spread regardless of what I continued to say.
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