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Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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Re: Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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So moon crater ice sublimates slow enough to not disappear a-la Europa?

That was my argument, before this article was published. The counter argument of course, is that it does sublimate (as water does from comets), but there's a vast amount (remains of a crashed comet, say); plus dust accumulating on the surface seals it fairly well over time. So I'm now guessing we're not talking "a few millimeters of water" as others have speculated, but really large amounts.

Re: Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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post #53

I wonder why it took several years for this analysis to be done and published. I mean, the data was presumably collected during 2008-2010 or so.

It's almost as though science is a complex job that occasionally requires a lot of work.

Sure, but eight years?

Edit: What I'm getting at is that this seems a profound result, with perhaps crucial implications. Not some minor detail, of only arcane interest.

Re: Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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I think the wealthy would rather take a vacation to the moon.

I like the idea of sploooshing around in a sublunarrean swimming pool at 1/6th g.

That's actually a very interesting idea I have never thought about? How slow would the water fall down and when splashed? Would you have to be careful not to smack the water a whole bunch least you suspend to much mist in the air to make it hard to breath for a while? What would it look like to splash around? I would love to see some cool physically based gpu renderings of what hydro stuff would look like in low g.

Re: Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the idea of sploooshing around in a sublunarrean swimming pool at 1/6th g.

That's actually a very interesting idea I have never thought about? How slow would the water fall down and when splashed? Would you have to be careful not to smack the water a whole bunch least you suspend to much mist in the air to make it hard to breath for a while? What would it look like to splash around? I would love to see some cool physically based gpu renderings of what hydro stuff would look like in low g.

See Passengers scene where the gravity system breaks.

Re: Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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They could also split it up, and ship the gases in compressed form.

Because oxygen and especially hydrogen are such a pain to store compared to water some rocket designs contemplate just leaving all the fuel mass as water and only splitting it into its parts as needed before firing.

Water is also effective at blocking radiation [0][1], making it especially useful when stored around the spacecraft occupants.

[0] https://www.quora.com/Can-we-use-water-or-ice-as-radiation-s...

[1] https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/284275main_Radiation_HS_Mod3.pdf (page 4)

Re: Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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> With enough ice sitting at the surface—within the top few millimeters—water would possibly be accessible as a resource for future expeditions to explore and even stay on the Moon, and potentially easier to access than the water detected beneath the Moon's surface. OR: It could be collected, shipped back to earth, bottled, and sold to the wealthy at ludicrous prices.

OR, we could call it H2Moon and heavily imply it is moon water but actually just source it from the local water and run it through a filter, even during droughts.

> we could call it H2Moon

The real winner is steak from a cow entirely raised on the stuff. H2Moos.

Re: Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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Likely, but the ice-mining scheme will be much easier to pull off, and will therefore be possible sooner, and is therefore more likely to be the primary means by which these resources are exploited.

To save mass (and thus cost) they'll probably dehydrate the water before shipping it back to Earth. Their target market won't care.

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Re: Ice confirmed at the Moon’s poles

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost as though science is a complex job that occasionally requires a lot of work.

Sure, but eight years? Edit: What I'm getting at is that this seems a profound result, with perhaps crucial implications. Not some minor detail, of only arcane interest.

If only they had a more reasonable budget for their undertakings
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