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Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by jaxtellerSoA »

habi wrote: post #56
21 wrote: post #45

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And who maintains that when something inevitably goes wrong?

You yourself :) WordPress isn't that hard to administer/maintain.

No, your right. It is just one of the biggest targets for hackers, and has a litany of vulnerabilities that grows daily.

If playing an endless game of whack-a-mole trying to keep up with the a constant stream of vulnerabilities seems fun, then sure.

Personally I wouldn't touch WordPress with a 10-foot pole. I would consider something like Ghost instead.

https://ghost.org/developers/

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by r3bl »

geofft wrote: post #10
tomjen3 wrote: post #3

A radical idea, lets all go back to blogs, hosted and owned by ourselves, on our own sites, which will enrich only us, and where you can write as long and as short as you want, and link to whatever you want.

Is there a good way to get my blog onto the fediverse? It sort of seems like the protocol (ActivityPub) is built in a way that it can support blog-style content as well as toot-style content, and it would solve many of the problems people have with discoverability, RSS dying, shared private posts, etc. I'd be interested in getting my blog (which is self-hosted and using a static site generator) publishing in a way th…

This is a really nasty way of doing this, but if you do have a Mastodon account, you can use feed2toot[0].

An "upgraded" version of it would be to parse another RSS/Atom feed for your blog. Make an excerpt of the content that's 496 - and then construct the toot to be "... ".

Of course, native integration would be far better, but it would go way out of the scope of static site generators.

[0] https://gitlab.com/chaica/feed2toot/

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by bopbop »

slezyr wrote: post #101
bopbop wrote: post #94

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Isn't wordpress more the technology? Or do you mean otherwise? Who would you see as pushing it? Or do you mean it's monetizable? It's definitely an excellent piece of software.

https://wordpress.com/pricing/ wordpress.com (not .org) is a platform for blogs.

That's what I was missing. Cheers.

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by uRreading2slow »

teddyh wrote: post #73

> But a great many serious things cannot be articulated in 140 or 280 characters, and so [on Twitter] you get the most easily reducible — and therefore least accurate — version of the feeling or idea. Either that, or you get lengthy Twitter threads, which are ponderous and boring. This is quite similar to Noam Chomsky’s idea of the media requiring “concision”¹, and therefore the media can only express mainstream idea…

https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/input.html#attr-input...

> The following extract shows how a messaging client's text entry could be arbitrarily restricted to a fixed number of characters, thus forcing any conversation through this medium to be terse and discouraging intelligent discourse.

    What are you doing?

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by wyoh »

I use to like Tumblr but a significant part of the content creators I was following (photographers) moved to either Instagram or Patron. It's not the same as it used to be and the platform is quickly losing ground.

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by androidgirl »

I don't think that there is a solution as easy as moving to $SOCIAL_NETWORK or $ACTIVITY_PUB_SITE.

I feel currently that the issue with social media is it's hyper stimulating. Speaking from a recovering social media addict point of view, the modern web latches onto human tendencies too well. We can be outraged, surrounded by people like us, 24/7. That's immensely fulfilling to most people, including me.

I don't use social media anymore because it's awful for me. And I don't think the echo chamber issue can be solved, at all. It's not a technology issue, it's an issue with how humans respond to these networks and the Internet in general.

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by Spivak »

androidgirl wrote: post #116

I don't think that there is a solution as easy as moving to $SOCIAL_NETWORK or $ACTIVITY_PUB_SITE. I feel currently that the issue with social media is it's hyper stimulating. Speaking from a recovering social media addict point of view, the modern web latches onto human tendencies too well. We can be outraged, surrounded by people like us, 24/7. That's immensely fulfilling to most people, including me. I don't use s…

I think this view ignores differences in systems that do actively shape the way we communicate and how communities grow. I don't think that social media fits your description, just that sites like Twitter do.

Examples of less-toxic social media:

- Messaging: SMS, Email, GroupMe, Messenger, Skype, Snapchat

- Micro Communities: Discord

- Small purpose-driven communities, small subreddits, Discord

- Collaborative: DeviantArt, GitHub

- Long form discussion: Blog circles, Blogger, Tumblr sometimes

- Non-discussion: Pinterest, Flickr, Instagram, StumbleUpon

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by jseliger »

ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #64
phyzome wrote: post #4

Main takeaways, in my view: - Longer form allows for less heated conversation - Allowing randos to emplace their screeds immediately below your post encourages fighting That second point I think bears more exploration. Maybe we shouldn't allow trolls to inject themselves into every conversation, eh? My favorite format for post/discussion is still the blog format, where comments are moderated by the author of the post…

I run a few blogs for a couple of pretty big Authors (not GRRM big, but still top 5 in Amazon for their categories). For years now, I've been suggesting to not have comments on the blog, and just have a link to their email saying something like "Want to discuss this? Send me an Email, I'd love to chat!". Every single one of them prefers this method, and has said it creates a much more valuable conversation 1-on-1 wit…

A long time ago, James Fallows of The Atlantic made the decision to turn off comments on his blog: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/09/lets-ta...

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by notriddle »

TheBeardKing wrote: post #97
CM30 wrote: post #39

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It isn't that hard to install a blog on a shared hosting plan or VPS somewhere. Just find something with CPanel and some sort of auto installer (I think it was called Fantastico or something) and Bob's your uncle. Don't even need to know how FTP works or how to code anything to do that...

It's also not free, and people are getting pretty used to free.

http://getpoole.com/ ?

If you're a HN regular, you can probably build a site using GitHub Pages. I'm just not sure about the Facebook-using public...

Re: Let’s all go back to Tumblr

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Post by phyzome »

chriswarbo wrote: post #86
phyzome wrote: post #7

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I have such nostalgia for the blogosphere. The one thing it's missing is post privacy; I want to be able to journal privately (like on Dreamwidth) but also use my own hosting and not rely on someone else's platform. I've been toying around with writing my own social media software along those lines, using servers. Some noodling about on that topic: https://www.brainonfire.net/blog/tag/social-media/

This doesn't sound like a use-case for a Web site to me. How about sending yourself emails, categorised into their own maildir or IMAP folder, or even a brand new account? That would inherit security from your email setup (which is monotonically more secure than systems which delegate password resetting to your email account). You can read and write them online or offline using a variety of readers and editors, inclu…

I agree, websites are the wrong tool.

What I'm envisioning is a desktop or phone app where you author posts and comments and read other people's posts and comments. The information is stored locally, but published out via a dumb server, with end-to-end encryption. Essentially, the server becomes an async dumb pipe (can just use WebDAV for this) or optionally a synchronous dumb pipe (if you add in a streaming protocol for notifications, such as websockets).

The software could also push up a static website made of any public posts, I suppose. :-)

I feel quite strongly that most users would benefit from their own device being the system of record for their posts, with the server functioning as coordination point and secondarily as an emergency backup.

(I'll be posting in more detail about this if you follow my blog's feed.)

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