This is pretty much what the DMCA and other copyright mechanisms were made for. Send your request to Google and have them delisted. https://support.google.com/legal/answer/3110420?hl=en
Does anything stop the scraper from using DCMA on the original site?
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Re: Ask HN: Dealing with a competitor who is scraping my content and ranking higher
#92Or are you referring to the copy that promotes the service?
Scraping is very easy if your content is rendered on the server. If it's rendered on the client it's a little more complex, I guess your competitor would have to use headless browsers.
Technologically, you're potentially up against services like Crawlera which will be pretty hard to beat.
The best solution is probably filing copyright claims through DMCA which would remove them from Google rankings.
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#94Google is smart enough to penalize plagiarizing sites. If the content appeared on your site first, it is highly unlikely they get ranked higher. Work on your own SEO strategy.
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#95(Note:I am not a lawyer.) If you're a US citizen, any content that you've created yourself is -automatically- copyrighted. (That's also true in all countries where Berne Convention standards apply.) See this link for further basics: https://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/intellectual-property/what... If they're scraping content you created, they have already broken the copyright law. (They may not realize that. Make sure…
What if I created my content by slightly altering other content? Like writing a news article from a Reuters press release, how much difference does there need to be? Seems like a pretty hard line to draw.
Re: Ask HN: Dealing with a competitor who is scraping my content and ranking higher
#96This is pretty much what the DMCA and other copyright mechanisms were made for. Send your request to Google and have them delisted. https://support.google.com/legal/answer/3110420?hl=en
Does anything stop the scraper from using DCMA on the original site?
https://help.github.com/articles/guide-to-submitting-a-dmca-...
Re: Ask HN: Dealing with a competitor who is scraping my content and ranking higher
#97Re: Ask HN: Dealing with a competitor who is scraping my content and ranking higher
#98(Note:I am not a lawyer.) If you're a US citizen, any content that you've created yourself is -automatically- copyrighted. (That's also true in all countries where Berne Convention standards apply.) See this link for further basics: https://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/intellectual-property/what... If they're scraping content you created, they have already broken the copyright law. (They may not realize that. Make sure…
What if I created my content by slightly altering other content? Like writing a news article from a Reuters press release, how much difference does there need to be? Seems like a pretty hard line to draw.
Keep in mind that copyright is for creative works. Facts can not be copyrighted. In a news article, it is the expression of the facts that covers the copyright, not the facts themselves. So you can definitely write an article stating the same facts as a Reuters press release (and be even based on that press release). You just can't base your prose on their prose. You have to completely rewrite it as a human -- it has to be an artefact, not an automated process.
However, there is another class of copyright for collections. A collection of facts can be copyrighted. You can't copy the same collection of the facts, nor a substantial portion of the collection. You can take individual facts out of the collection and include them in a creative work, but you can't just grab facts one at a time and create a new collection -- that would be a derived work.
Like all laws, copyright law is subject to interpretation by humans (lawyers and judges). While you might think that you are satisfying the law, they may disagree. To avoid that circumstance it is best to stay in an area where it is obvious to everyone that you are within the law. If you don't mind being sued, then you can try to push the boundaries. It is your choice.
Re: Ask HN: Dealing with a competitor who is scraping my content and ranking higher
#99If you haven't already, try adding some "trap streets" to your data. Map makers occasionally include streets that don't exist, so if a competitors map includes it too, it's clear that the competitor copied it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_street I did that with an online marketing dictionary I wrote years ago, some of the definitions included strange usage examples that contained the names of several of my frie…
Similar to trap streets are "phantom settlements", aka "paper towns", which are fake towns rather than streets. Now, this idea is not limited to maps: Google used trap search results to catch Microsoft using Internet Explorer to scrap Google search results: https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses...
In the "real world", it was commonplace for compilers of mailing lists to include several "phantom names" in their lists. If those names received a mail, the list-holder would send an invoice to the person who sent it. Simple, elegant, very difficult to bypass way to protect your knowledge-based business.
Re: Ask HN: Dealing with a competitor who is scraping my content and ranking higher
#100If you haven't already, try adding some "trap streets" to your data. Map makers occasionally include streets that don't exist, so if a competitors map includes it too, it's clear that the competitor copied it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_street I did that with an online marketing dictionary I wrote years ago, some of the definitions included strange usage examples that contained the names of several of my frie…