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More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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As someone who doesn't like smoking but would like to try pot, is the end effect of smoking pot the same as eating pot cookies? I dont seen cookies mentioned any of the comments so far. Why is that?

End result can be very different. I feel many more people have bad experiences with edibles. Recommend smoking or vaping

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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In the past I was addicted to pot. I was addicted in the sense that pretty much everything felt better when I was high. I was more relaxed and had less anxiety. Sex was better. Food tasted better. I was more creative. I thought about much deeper things. I spent less time online and in front of screens. The biggest downside for me--and the reason I ended up quitting--was that my sober life just sucked in comparison. I…

i'm still under ssri, mainly to avoid withdrawal effects, I don't really need them, and I do get the 'no crutches' thing, I'll be happy when I won't take them anymore.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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I went back after nearly 2 years clean. I don't recommend it. Once again I'm lacking in mental energy. I'm all for MJ if you need it, but I think a lot of us are fooling ourselves into thinking it's benign. Sure, it's better than alcohol, but I don't think that's a useful benchmark. Sobriety can be boring, but until someone invents a better drug I think it's my only option until I retire.

As someone who has never smoked, I feel like this is the argument I always had with my friends who all have/do. Ultimately, their argument for smoking basically boiled down to the lack of scientific evidence that there are lasting consequences and that it was nowhere near as bad as alcohol. My argument was that there was a lack in scientific evidence, and that comparing the utility to alcohol was stupid.

There's a few talk on youtube where people tried to make stats of mental illness due to THC. It's not conclusive but it paints a less rosy picture than the 'natural harmless' substance one can hear everywhere.

Medicine is not a very giving topic, if you want to 'know' you better be infinitely patient and precise.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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If you'd never really know it to meet them, what about their usage is distressing? Most people are "basically permanently 'kind of high'" on caffeine, or nicotine, or both. Is that distressing?

For one, I also have family members who are very alcoholic and 'you'd never know it' either, i.e. fairly highly functional. The effects of caffeine and nicotine are mild, and mostly physical. Especially with nicotine, it's a 'maintenance addiction' in that smoking in addicts is mostly to get to 'stay normal' because the body has adjusted dopamine receptors. A little bit similar with caffeine in that we build a tolera…

Mildly high isn't equivalent to stoned, and I don't think it's a stretch to consider that the might be some issues with everyone self-medicating for motivation and concentration with caffeine all day.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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While it's generally true that it isn't, some strains may produce quite strong auditory and visual hallucinations for some users.

Recommendations?

Experiences produced by particular strain can vary wildly even for the same user, so it boils down to experimenting with different strains in different settings and finding out what works for you. Some users report that mixing strains of "haze" family tends to produce strong closed-eye visuals and mild open-eye ones.

If your vision is affected by visual snow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow) or you are prone to have noticeable phosphene images with closed eyes, then it may be sufficient to simply focus on them while being high. The drug will greatly amplify your natural "hallucinations", subjectively up to the level of mild dose of psylocibin or LSD. Of course, taking those classic psychedelics is a more reliable way to produce visuals, but they come with headspace which is quite different (and for some less desirable and comfortable) from weed-induced one.

The same focusing technique can work for monotonic sounds - it's quite amusing to observe how fridge's buzz turns into full-blown symphony :).

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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I'm glad you quit, because that's what you needed to do for you, and that's always the right thing to do. However, even though your comment is anecdotal, I do feel the need to point out that your concerns weren't because of the pot, but rather because of your decisions. If you smoke in moderation and learn your strains (sativa dominant for social situations, indica dominant for Netflix and chill), then it's a highly…

Have there been any double blind tests of the difference between Sativa and Indica? As someone who doesn't smoke, it sure sounds like sommelier's talk. Even though it's almost legal now, the world of cannabis is full of so much mystical mumbo jumbo and outright fabrication. Take the whole CBD thing, for example. The only consensus seems to be that people who sell it say it does whatever the customer wants. And how mu…

After thirty years of smoking, I've found no real difference between sativa and indica strains. There are a half dozen different deltas of THC, and CBD has it's own. That's where the real variety in effect comes from. But it could be any strain that has this. The general consensus is sativa = active, indica = sleepy, but I've found it both ways. Ultimately the grower/gardener has a much bigger effect on the quality than the strain.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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Exactly that. I strongly believe that those who /do/ use drugs like this are self-medicating to escape the seemingly/maybe actually intractable social issues for which there is no single easy answer or method of escape. Compared to /trying/ to get a good job somewhere and trying to find housing that isn't outrageously over-priced and trying to more or less win the lottery game that is presently life in western societ…

There is an easy answer though. You do what successful humans have done for thousands of years: - educate yourself - join or form a community that supports each other - fight for your survival like every ancestor in your genetic tree did before you. Life isn't easy. But you also aren't naturally weak. Unfortunately, once you start doing drugs, you risk corrupting the source code of the machine you rely on.

Man who has never experienced extreme poverty or the absolute depths of American society attempts to provide easy answer to something he's never been through.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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That's correct, kind of- nearly all modern cannabis are not pure strains, and the labelling at stores doesn't correspond to the species definitions.

Nearly all are cross breeds, yes. That does not mean that the labels are inaccurate - the species just don't correspond to lay-person's assumptions. Trainwreck and it's daughter strain, Casey Jones, for example, have a heavily Indica dominant lineage, but behave veyr much like a Sativa. Casey Jones is amusing to bring out at parties: the volume of the room rises precipitously for about 20 minutes, and then... silence…

I think we're in general agreement (and both a lot more experienced than the average person). I've seen things labelled at pure sativa which did nothing but cause people to feel couch lock, and pure indicas that lead to head highs in the stratosphere. I don't think the physiological effect is correlated strongly with the strain.

Re: More Americans report near-constant cannabis use

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I think it's a mistake to legalize cannabis and continue to treat it like any other consumer product, opening the floodgates to gratuitous advertisements and dubious health claims. Instead, the sale of cannabis (and perhaps other drugs) should be treated as a public health issue, where the sale is permitted as long as it isn't advertised and proper information is given about the product. The Netherlands partly has th…

Can you name an area that has legalized cannabis and fallen victim to this flood of dubious health claims that you fear?

Do you see this as worse than our current system of criminalizing it and sending SWAT teams into dispensaries?

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