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Re: Chargify New Pricing

#71
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Guys, if this upsets you, you are not in the target market. (Much love, but the real world spends real money on revenue drivers.)

Chargify isn't really a revenue driver, much love, the people that spent freaking hours integrating with chargify to have a bait and switch pulled.

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#72

Some Chargify alternatives: http://cheddargetter.com http://www.spreedly.com http://recurly.com http://www.braintreepaymentsolutions.com

Just a note that Recurly did this exact same thing several months ago, though they've since changed their prices again. We were literally 1 day away from launching on Recurly when they changed prices. Spooked by the sudden price hike, we spent a good deal of time re-writing our ecommerce on Chargify. And now this. Maybe it's time to just bite the bullet and roll our own solution.

Spreedly doesn't provide the same functionality, but it's great if you just need a basic recurring payment solution without the frills or deep API integration.

I haven't worked with CheddarGetter or BrainTree directly.

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#73
Hey all, we've gotten a ton of feedback through Twitter, emails, tickets, and a few phone calls. Plus we interacted with a lot of people over the past couple of months.

All of these inputs are coming together in a smaller plan we're releasing for existing merchants. Details will be out soon on our blog, via Twitter, etc.

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#74
You can predict the response based on a similar move made by Zendesk back in May (http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/18/zendesk-pricing/). Spoiler alert: there will be backlash.

It also strikes me as a dangerous strategic move. The reason I originally selected Chargify over competitors like Spreedly and CheddarGetter is because they had the lowest entry cost. I can experiment and find product market fit. By that point, I don't care so much about the monthly cost (and I'm locked in to a product that I like, which helped me reach my goals). The new pricing model is extreme enough to make me revisit the decision. I'm sure I'm not alone.

I find their product and support to be great, and I'd like to see them keep a similar model. Maybe they should lower the thresholds (free up to 10 paying customers, for example). I'm sure there are other models that will work for them and their customers.

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#75
We appreciate the feedback from all of our loyal Chargify customers and we will have an update shortly to show we understand this support. A plan only available to those that already have accounts that will be much less and have a smaller number of customers.

We are very sorry that we did not show this understanding in our announcement and pricing. No excuses.

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#76
post #72

Some Chargify alternatives: http://cheddargetter.com http://www.spreedly.com http://recurly.com http://www.braintreepaymentsolutions.com

Just a note that Recurly did this exact same thing several months ago, though they've since changed their prices again. We were literally 1 day away from launching on Recurly when they changed prices. Spooked by the sudden price hike, we spent a good deal of time re-writing our ecommerce on Chargify. And now this. Maybe it's time to just bite the bullet and roll our own solution. Spreedly doesn't provide the same fun…

If you can at all afford it get your own merchant account and work with an IPSP directly, keep control of your own data as much as is allowed and make a deal that if they go belly up that you will get access to your accounts for a one-time migration to another IPSP. Otherwise you're just setting yourself up for big trouble down the road.

Middlemen in the payment business have a habit of going down when you need them most (when your business is successful and you are growing like mad, have a bunch of employees and suddenly your income evaporates).

iBill, DMR, now Jettis in trouble and many others besides.

All it takes is one big VISA fine for not following procedures and these operations will fold like a house of cards.

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, technically you have all the customer data in your gateway's info manager (like Authorize.net's CIM), but it would still be a real bitch to take that and do anything useful with it. Plus, the clock is ticking on your 30 days to get it migrated to your new setup.

CC, EXP and CVC as well ? Without those you won't be doing much in terms of migration. Other than contacting the customer, figure you'll lose 75% or more of your business that way.

In our case, all that stuff is handled via the Authorize.net CIM. Chargify stores everything in the CIM and just makes calls to Authorize's API.

To be clear: we can leave Chargify, but Authorize has us locked in.

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CC, EXP and CVC as well ? Without those you won't be doing much in terms of migration. Other than contacting the customer, figure you'll lose 75% or more of your business that way.

In our case, all that stuff is handled via the Authorize.net CIM. Chargify stores everything in the CIM and just makes calls to Authorize's API. To be clear: we can leave Chargify , but Authorize has us locked in.

What does chargify do for you that the authorize.net api can not do for you?

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#79
I just joined Chargify Oct. 7th after the AppSumo bundle offered a $200 credit. 4 days later, they've raised their prices. I'm going to scrap the work I've done and go out of my way to use other services. The money isn't an issue. $99/month is fine, but I wouldn't pay it to get started.

Re: Chargify New Pricing

#80

Hey all, we've gotten a ton of feedback through Twitter, emails, tickets, and a few phone calls. Plus we interacted with a lot of people over the past couple of months. All of these inputs are coming together in a smaller plan we're releasing for existing merchants. Details will be out soon on our blog, via Twitter, etc.

Stupid question: Didn't you see this response coming?
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