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Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Title is clickbait, 6 x performance gain is for ray tracing only, which is normal, Pascal cards didn't have the ray tracing muscle of the new cards.

What are the approximate gains from the last gen, i.e. 1080->2080 or 1070->2070, for a non RTX enabled game? Would be speculation at this point I assume, but just based on clock freqs, mem bandwidth and the number of units on the chip?

24% - 42% improvement according to an earlier Top comment...

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #185

Some clips of the Battlefield V demo real-time reflections: https://twitter.com/dan_mitre/status/1031599285576650757 https://twitter.com/dan_mitre/status/1031599199316529158 https://twitter.com/dan_mitre/status/1031598556585582595

I can already imagine having this, being amazed and then the amazement wearing off. Probably Going to cancel my preorder... probably.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking about two different things here... You mentioned that card is capable of outputting 8k HDR @ 60Hz, i.e. your Windows desktop can happily have 7680x4320@60. I mentioned that running games at 4k@60Hz or 3k@144Hz smoothly might not be possible for some demanding games and that many gamers expected that from the new generation.

You can slow any hardware with sufficiently inefficient program (or sufficiently detailed scene, if we're talking about GPUs). You can easily make any videocard work at 0.001 FPS if your scene is heavy enough. So it only depends on game developers, it's unfair to blame Nvidia for that. GPU progress is astonishing, at least when compared with CPU progress.

It's not about blame, it's being realistic that 4K means 4x the pixels and 8K means 16x the pixels, and while these cards represent a lot of progress they're nowhere near that level.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point was different - it is way too expensive for regular gamers, 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either and 10 games featuring RTX in the nearly future is not a sufficient draw, especially when some of the effects now look subjectively worse with RTX ON (see those shadows from multiple lights above dancing people from Jenson's demo). So the question remains - who is the real target…

>it is way too expensive for regular gamers The 80 series has always been a low-volume, high-margin halo product within Nvidia's gaming range. It's dirt cheap and high-volume compared to Quadro, but top-of-the-range for gaming. Cryptomania has revealed to Nvidia that they probably priced the 1080 too low at launch - many gamers were in fact willing to pay substantially inflated prices for The Best GPU. If the mass ma…

I think the cryptomania revealed that people (young people, gamers, who got into cryptocurrencies) could earn a few bucks or so back with their investment. Some of whom used mom 'n pop's electricity grid for that purpose. If they had to pay that back, it was likely 0% interest.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without anything beyond claims what reality™ is, your response unfortunately just reads like an ad for your company.

"Reality", in our case, is based on conversations with a few dozen customers who use our products as well as the actively publishing researchers we know personally. The majority of sampled customers are training convnets of some fashion, the most common being Yolo/SSD and ResNet.

Most people I know are just using Google Cloud. Directly integrated with Tensorflow, and way more scalable.

I can run 10 GPUs on my model training runs and finish in an hour now when they used to take at least 2 or 3 days, and it took absolutely no work on my end. It’s been absolutely wonderful for my productivity. The price doesn’t matter either because compared to how much the people are being paid at these sorts of companies, it really doesn’t matter. The boost in efficiency is so much more important.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #12

Hmm, 24%-42% performance increase (14/16TFlops vs 11.3TFlops) for 70-90% price increase... And prices were already inflated by crypto that is now collapsing. Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. Still only 11GB RAM, even if 50% faster, making it a nonsense purchase for Deep Learning enthusiasts (state-of-art models are already larger). Unless somebody invented RTX-based coin of course, then this…

For the money they're charging, they could have at least thrown us a bone by including HDMI 2.1 VRR, or ideally even adaptive sync.

Nvidia users still have to pay an Nvidia-tax to access expensive G-sync monitors, which are far fewer in availability and selection than Freesync (which also works with Xbox).

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can always decrease a batch size to fit in smaller RAM.

Unless you are already on a batch size 1 and TensorFlow greets you with a nice OOM message... Try some Wide-ResNet for state-of-art classification and play with its widening parameter.

Use gradient checkpointing.

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2080 Ti FE RTX 2080 Ti GTX 1080 Ti Price $1,199 $999 $699 GPU Architecture Turing Turing Pascal Boost Clock 1635 MHz 1545 MHz 1582 MHz Frame Buffer 11 GB GDDR6 11 GB GDDR6 11 GB GDDR5X Memory Speed 14 Gbps 14 Gbps 11 Gbps Memory Interface 352-bit 352-bit 352-bit CUDA Cores 4352 4352 3584 TDP 260W 250W 250W Giga Rays 10 10 ? 2080 FE RTX 2080 GTX 1080 Price $799 $699 $549 GPU Architecture Turing Turing Pascal Boost Clo…

Where do you get $399 for GTX 1070? Wikipedia claims $379 and I paid $374.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series#GeForce_10_(...

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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2080 Ti FE RTX 2080 Ti GTX 1080 Ti Price $1,199 $999 $699 GPU Architecture Turing Turing Pascal Boost Clock 1635 MHz 1545 MHz 1582 MHz Frame Buffer 11 GB GDDR6 11 GB GDDR6 11 GB GDDR5X Memory Speed 14 Gbps 14 Gbps 11 Gbps Memory Interface 352-bit 352-bit 352-bit CUDA Cores 4352 4352 3584 TDP 260W 250W 250W Giga Rays 10 10 ? 2080 FE RTX 2080 GTX 1080 Price $799 $699 $549 GPU Architecture Turing Turing Pascal Boost Clo…

Wow, were the founders editions really that cheap on the last gen? Guess the inflated prices from all the crypto mining really threw me off.

The grid doesn't have any 10xx founder edition prices.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #12

Hmm, 24%-42% performance increase (14/16TFlops vs 11.3TFlops) for 70-90% price increase... And prices were already inflated by crypto that is now collapsing. Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. Still only 11GB RAM, even if 50% faster, making it a nonsense purchase for Deep Learning enthusiasts (state-of-art models are already larger). Unless somebody invented RTX-based coin of course, then this…

Don't give people ideas like this. It only leads to misery for everyone.
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