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Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by drdeadringer »

imglorp wrote: post #44
djflutt3rshy wrote: post #42

Would it kill companies to be honest and upfront about these sorts of issues? I feel like "Hey, we're unable to pay our bills unless we can better monetize our product" comes across a lot more honest and trust-worthy than this "We're improving user experience! Trust us!" pride-and-accomplishment nonsense that everyone keeps regurgitating. We're not preschoolers, the Internet can spot marketing slogans a mile away.

What's next? Opt-out phone-home, telemetry, crash reporting, quality analytics, whatever you call it. That's my prediction. My Synology personal file server started nagging about enabling telemetry and needing a privacy notice to store my files on my drive on my network. Screw that.

I use a Synology personal server, but an older one. I have been considering upgrading to a more modern version. Do you remember about when this nagging began? Was it related to a firmware upgrade or was it "right out of the box"?

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by notamy »

cdoxsey wrote: post #117

Docker is such a mess. As a tool for building containers its cumbersome, has bizarre and frustrating limitations and has issues that haven’t been addressed in years. You can’t use semver for tags, it eats up all your disk space and you have to manually GC it, etc… Multi-build support is basically useless and invariably you end up writing convoluted bash scripts to get the thing to work. Caching is terrible pretty muc…

> You’d be surprised by how many companies using Kubernetes gave up using docker a long time ago.

What are they using instead? cri-o? rkt?

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by jimktrains2 »

larkeith wrote: post #40
amaccuish wrote: post #8

I also can't delete my account myself after having created it. I believe the best way to operate is to make something as easy to delete as it was to create...

Pretty sure that violates GDPR. Might want to email them about that.

Hackernews is worse as even if you email them they won't delete your account unless there is some issue actually causing you a problem.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by ChristianGeek »

brightball wrote: post #72
djflutt3rshy wrote: post #42

Would it kill companies to be honest and upfront about these sorts of issues? I feel like "Hey, we're unable to pay our bills unless we can better monetize our product" comes across a lot more honest and trust-worthy than this "We're improving user experience! Trust us!" pride-and-accomplishment nonsense that everyone keeps regurgitating. We're not preschoolers, the Internet can spot marketing slogans a mile away.

Stuff like this makes me feel better about focusing on Ansible Container instead of Docker. You can use it to create multiple different types of containers without being married to Docker itself.

Is this a viable alternative to Docker? I’m about to launch a fairly large new project and had planned on going with Docker but this definitely causes me concern.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by brightball »

ChristianGeek wrote: post #134
brightball wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stuff like this makes me feel better about focusing on Ansible Container instead of Docker. You can use it to create multiple different types of containers without being married to Docker itself.

Is this a viable alternative to Docker? I’m about to launch a fairly large new project and had planned on going with Docker but this definitely causes me concern.

It just lets you abstract the container. You can use it to build docker or LXC, etc. if a new container comes out you will be able to build that too.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by johnny22 »

GW150914 wrote: post #95
gameswithgo wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as soon as you see nonsense business speak like that you know things are going downhill. see also, netflix, and twitter lately. I really don't know why they bother uttering or writing those kinds of words. They contain no information, nobody is fooled by the lie. It is a waste of their time.

The world is full of people lacking the (to you and I) basic intelligence, education, and sophistication to smell bullshit. The minority that the rest of us represent are too much trouble to bother with anyhow, and our odds of convincing a large enough number of other people of our positions are low. Edit: I understand how what I said could come off as facile or elitist, but there is truth in it. The same empty promi…

If you're stating that, then you're probably one of those people about some topic you don't know about. Can we please not do this?

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by Deimorz »

TylerE wrote: post #116
ethbro wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For reference and so people can be outraged without RTFA, here was the original close comment: -- joaofnfernandes (2 months ago) "I know that this can feel like a nuisance, but we've made this change to make sure we can improve the Docker for Mac and Windows experience for users moving forward. As far as I can tell, the docs don't need changes, so I'll close this issue, but feel free to comment."

Has there ever been a change to "improve user experience" that has _actually_ improved user experience? (Looking at you, Google.)

http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2017/12/07/improvements/

"In our quest to improve the service for you, the user, we're making it worse.

It was great before. It's going to be terrible now, but you're going to love the changes.

We asked our investors and they said you're very excited about it being less good, which is great news for you."

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by johnny22 »

ChristianGeek wrote: post #134
brightball wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stuff like this makes me feel better about focusing on Ansible Container instead of Docker. You can use it to create multiple different types of containers without being married to Docker itself.

Is this a viable alternative to Docker? I’m about to launch a fairly large new project and had planned on going with Docker but this definitely causes me concern.

something like this might be https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/daemon-haunted-container-worl... I'm posting the PR link rather than the projects since the I'm not sure what the intended CLI for actually using the container is.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by GW150914 »

johnny22 wrote: post #136
GW150914 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world is full of people lacking the (to you and I) basic intelligence, education, and sophistication to smell bullshit. The minority that the rest of us represent are too much trouble to bother with anyhow, and our odds of convincing a large enough number of other people of our positions are low. Edit: I understand how what I said could come off as facile or elitist, but there is truth in it. The same empty promi…

If you're stating that, then you're probably one of those people about some topic you don't know about. Can we please not do this?

I wasn’t talking about lacking domain expertise in a given area, I think obviously. I’m talking about something much broader and universal, but I’m still sorry for causing you offense, that wasn’t intended.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by 8bitsrule »

danjoc wrote: post #77
jeffbr13 wrote: post #49

Docker Hub[1] is also blatantly in breach of the GDPR. Wording on the pop-up: > We and our advertising partners use cookies on this site and around the web to improve your website experience and provide you with personalised advertising from this site and other advertisers in AdRoll's network. By clicking "allow" or navigating this site, you accept the placement and use of these cookies for these purposes. It’s not a…

>Docker Hub is also blatantly in breach of the GDPR. Truth is, no one cares. GDPR is an overreach designed to shake down American mega-corps. Docker has no money so the EU isn't going to do anything to them. >I’d report them to the Information Commissioner‘s Office myself if I didn’t think they were about to fold anyway I'm sure they're inundated with complaints from unsuccessful companies trying to shoot down their…

"overreach"

You mean, like Google continuing to compile Location statistics while assuring users they're not?

"designed to shake down American..."

Or, it's not just a scam after all ... for whatever reason, some places in the world feel a need to protect themselves from US ...

... and they're actually trying to protect their citizens. Unlike 'our representatives' (hah!) in the US Congress.

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