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I’m Sorry I Criticized You, Apple. You Win

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Re: I’m Sorry I Criticized You, Apple. You Win

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Post by __sr__ »

nazka wrote: post #53
umvi wrote: post #33

While I applaud Apple for some of their practices, I still hate their heavy handed approach toward hardware/software control: - OSX must run on Apple-approved hardware - iOS apps must come from the official app store - iOS apps must be developed on an Apple-approved device - Extremely difficult to repair your own devices - etc.

Like Steve Jobs said: "people who are really serious about software should make their own hardware". I heard that a lot and never thought about it. But it started to grow in me and now I can see it wasn't just a cool sentence but rather a real mean to make the best products ever to have the best experience. Even if it was challenging and he had to go against the flow.

It was Alan Kay, actually.

Re: I’m Sorry I Criticized You, Apple. You Win

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Post by saudioger »

dimillian wrote: post #17
saudioger wrote: post #12

Despite the iPhone and business success, I do kind of mourn for the days when their hardware was more reliable. My 2017 Macbook is not nearly as nice as my 2015 model. Though, as a bit of irony I do like that I can charge my Android phone with my Macbook charger.

My father still use my square white Macbook, it stills work as good as day 1 with the factory battery. I wonder if my 2016 and 2018 MacBook Pro will get the same lifetime, if they does, it's still crazy hardware.

My keyboard broke on my 2017 Macbook and they had to replace the logic board to fix it. I've already broken keycaps on my replacement. I'll be lucky if this thing sees 3 years.

Re: I’m Sorry I Criticized You, Apple. You Win

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Post by cam_l »

applecore wrote: post #40
rainbowmverse wrote: post #7

Replacing my 3 year old Moto G3 with a 3 year old 6S Plus was one of the best calls I've made in years. It's a weird feeling being current on an older phone, and knowing that it's got at least one more OS update coming. I know it's flagship vs. budget, but the way the Android phone began decaying before it even got here was still inexcusable. I'd never really used an Apple device before, so it was easy to knock them…

Plus, iOS 12 is going to significantly improve performance on all devices as far back as the iPhone 5S. When was the last time a major Android update made five-year-old devices faster? https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-12-preview/features/

Every android update since 5 had made my phone at least twice as fast (ui) and maybe 20% extra battery!

Of course, I don't rely on manufacturer updates.

Re: I’m Sorry I Criticized You, Apple. You Win

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Post by flashgordon »

ReverseCold wrote: post #48
amelius wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two big reasons why I might switch from Android to Apple: - My Bluetooth audio has been broken for years. There's a discussion forum topic about this, but Google doesn't listen. - Starting the camera app takes about 3-5 seconds. In most cases, this is enough time to spoil the entire photo-moment. Edit: it's also the fact that Google allowed these problems to exist in the first place.

These are bad reasons. Top of the line Android phones generally have better/faster launching cameras than the top of the line iPhone and don't have bluetooth broken. Even some mid-range Android phones would probably outperform the iPhone X in these two areas. Valid reasons to switch to an Apple product (in my opinion) are - Privacy - Better App Ecosystem (arguably, for both MacOS and iOS) - Faster Processors (for iOS…

So I have a pixel 2 XL and I can attest for the camera taking upto 3s to load on average. This has been progressively getting worse with each OS upgrade (no way I am upgrading to the "AI" OS). My iPhone 3GS actually ran for a good 5 years and though "hot" apps werent fast, the default apps were as zippy as they were the day the phone was bought. Somehow Google doesnt seem to care about this!

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Post by skygazer »

cam_l wrote: post #63
applecore wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus, iOS 12 is going to significantly improve performance on all devices as far back as the iPhone 5S. When was the last time a major Android update made five-year-old devices faster? https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-12-preview/features/

Every android update since 5 had made my phone at least twice as fast (ui) and maybe 20% extra battery! Of course, I don't rely on manufacturer updates.

blink So, Pie will be 16x as fast (ui) on the same hardware as Lollipop?

Re: I’m Sorry I Criticized You, Apple. You Win

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Post by cam_l »

skygazer wrote: post #65
cam_l wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every android update since 5 had made my phone at least twice as fast (ui) and maybe 20% extra battery! Of course, I don't rely on manufacturer updates.

blink So, Pie will be 16x as fast (ui) on the same hardware as Lollipop?

I wondered if anyone would pull me up on this :D

I was of course careful to say had, and obviously this rested on the fact that lollipop was so universally shit for the ui.

Also, of you think about a ui getting faster, a fixed 200 percentage increase peer iteration, means the absolute speed increase gets relatively smaller as they approach zero.

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