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Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by thanatropism »

bmc7505 wrote: post #38

If you're frustrated with Docker's slow pace of development are are looking for a good alternative, have a look at Singularity containers. They're interoperable with Docker Hub and OCI compatible images, and offer a much better experience for HPC, machine learning and big data environments. Their GPU support is top notch. They don't run on as many platforms as Docker, but are aiming to grow into cross-platform. Sylab…

Your repetition repetition of "their gpu support is top notch" reminded me of Florida man Marco Rubio in those 2015 presidential debates.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by brightball »

djflutt3rshy wrote: post #42

Would it kill companies to be honest and upfront about these sorts of issues? I feel like "Hey, we're unable to pay our bills unless we can better monetize our product" comes across a lot more honest and trust-worthy than this "We're improving user experience! Trust us!" pride-and-accomplishment nonsense that everyone keeps regurgitating. We're not preschoolers, the Internet can spot marketing slogans a mile away.

Stuff like this makes me feel better about focusing on Ansible Container instead of Docker. You can use it to create multiple different types of containers without being married to Docker itself.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by sopooneo »

gameswithgo wrote: post #60
MBCook wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No kidding. “Improve the user experience“ is incredibly nebulous and non-obvious. IF there is actually a benefit to this why not just list it? We all know why. There isn’t a benefit to the end-user.

as soon as you see nonsense business speak like that you know things are going downhill. see also, netflix, and twitter lately. I really don't know why they bother uttering or writing those kinds of words. They contain no information, nobody is fooled by the lie. It is a waste of their time.

I thought the same way until I worked with lots of types of people. The vast majority seem to much prefer BS, even blatant BS to honesty that is even the least bit blunt. I think part of it is that since everyone exaggerates, actual blunt truths are assumed to also be a positive spin, which would put their reality in the toilet.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by llimllib »

jchw wrote: post #43
userbinator wrote: post #27

That's what throwaway accounts are for... and this, of course: http://bugmenot.com/view/store.docker.com In any case, "to make sure we can improve the Docker for Mac and Windows experience for users moving forward" is yet another example of the official-sounding-yet-bullshit, vague and meandering language that seems to permeate into everything these days. (Is there a specific term for it? "Business-speak" doesn't hav…

FWIW, as far as I know, Docker for Windows and Docker for Mac really are closed source freeware. My honest opinion is we should move away from it. As for what to move to... That's definitely an open question. Docker for Windows is definitely one of the best developer experiences I've had on Windows because they put actual engineering work into it. All the same, I still found it buggier and less supported than Docker…

> one of the best developer experiences I've had on Windows because they put actual engineering work into it

Like, this is exactly what they're talking about, right? This is the user experience that they've improved because VCs have been willing to give them money because they show increases in MAUs.

Am I crazy here? You seem to be complaining about exactly the thing that you like

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by [deleted] »

djflutt3rshy wrote: post #42

Would it kill companies to be honest and upfront about these sorts of issues? I feel like "Hey, we're unable to pay our bills unless we can better monetize our product" comes across a lot more honest and trust-worthy than this "We're improving user experience! Trust us!" pride-and-accomplishment nonsense that everyone keeps regurgitating. We're not preschoolers, the Internet can spot marketing slogans a mile away.

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Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by danjoc »

jeffbr13 wrote: post #49

Docker Hub[1] is also blatantly in breach of the GDPR. Wording on the pop-up: > We and our advertising partners use cookies on this site and around the web to improve your website experience and provide you with personalised advertising from this site and other advertisers in AdRoll's network. By clicking "allow" or navigating this site, you accept the placement and use of these cookies for these purposes. It’s not a…

>Docker Hub is also blatantly in breach of the GDPR.

Truth is, no one cares. GDPR is an overreach designed to shake down American mega-corps. Docker has no money so the EU isn't going to do anything to them.

>I’d report them to the Information Commissioner‘s Office myself if I didn’t think they were about to fold anyway

I'm sure they're inundated with complaints from unsuccessful companies trying to shoot down their biggest competitors already. Adding one more to the pile is only going to waste your time and that of EU regulators.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by bigiain »

amaccuish wrote: post #65
larkeith wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure that violates GDPR. Might want to email them about that.

Ye I only managed to find a "feedback" email address. If they're going to make you have an account, they could have thought about what if people want their account deleted...

You have to look around a bit, but:

"Customers may view, update or change their registration information by logging in to their accounts at www.docker.com. Requests to access, change, or delete your information will be handled within 30 days."

"Questions regarding this Privacy Policy or the information practices of the Website should be directed to privacy@docker.com or by mailing Docker Privacy, 144 Townsend Street, San Francisco, CA 94107."

https://www.docker.com/legal/docker-privacy-policy

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by [deleted] »

gameswithgo wrote: post #66
zapita wrote: post #47

I understand the rationale for filing this issue, although I personally disagree with it... Docker for Mac is great freeware, and I don’t mind logging into Steam and Mac Store for my other apps, so I don’t have an issue with doing the same with Docker. But for someone who greatly cares about not having to give their email, I can see how it can be annoying to see the policy change after they started using the software…

>Either way... Holy shit is that github thread full of negativity and entitlement! Pretty shocking. Even if you’re unhappy with something, that’s no way to treat a team that is giving you a tool for free! I think the fact that you focus on the "entitlement" and that I focus on the fact that the maintainer gave a bullshit, misleading answer to an important question, is related to the fact that you don't mind having to…

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Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by mbell »

It seems like Docker is in a really awkward place as a company. Their strategy was clearly to get everyone on the container hyper train then monetize by selling the production orchestration / runtime. But Kubernetes happened and GCP / AWS have rolled out competition in all the other supporting system needed; container registries, build pipelines, etc. What is the actual pitch for Docker EE now? Their marketing is pushing hard on 'security', but otherwise it seems like they are just selling a pretty UI for K8s. I don't see that being enough to support a company that has taken 250M in funding.
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