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Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Kinda disappointed that there is no improvement—in fact a small reduction—of the raw GFLOPS computing power, compared to Volta: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_proces...

Titan V is a $3000 card. Getting close to that performance on a $1000 card is a big leap forward.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Hmm, 24%-42% performance increase (14/16TFlops vs 11.3TFlops) for 70-90% price increase... And prices were already inflated by crypto that is now collapsing. Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. Still only 11GB RAM, even if 50% faster, making it a nonsense purchase for Deep Learning enthusiasts (state-of-art models are already larger). Unless somebody invented RTX-based coin of course, then this…

I think it will still be popular for DL. The models themselves will fit and batches can be distributed over multiple cards during training.

(DL = Deep Learning I expect. Two letter acronyms are rarely clear. Please don't use them)

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Where are you getting a 70-90% price increase? 1080s are ~$450, will now be $799. 1070s are ~$400, will now be $599. (I'm going off the top hits on Newegg)

For the 1080, by your numbers, $799/$450 represents a ~78% price increase.

Alright fair. 50-80%, not 70-90%.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Putting AI/ML aside, I have a question for graphics experts or/and gamers: what is the practical [1] ceiling of the current champion, the 1080ti? I was under impression that that card already was much more than most people needed. In other words, is the new generation only useful for 4K gaming? [1] By "practical" I mean on 1440p@144Hz monitors.

For me, it's around ~45-50fps@4k for a good set of games, and often ~100-120fps@144hz for me. 1000$ is a steep price for the 2080TI, although depending on the 2080 performance it might be the only card which can and will continue to reliably hit 60fps@4k. Not upping ram with such a huge price increase is absolutely absurd.

> ~100-120fps@144hz

Do you mean @1440p?

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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I feel like there is a hard limit on rendering tech right now. We saw 4k upgrades to the PS4/xbox and next gen consoles might be a way off. I thought the gaming industry was waiting for hardware that would let you render Marvel movie style graphics. Things that just barely hit that uncanny divide; that would give the player comic book film style immersions. The demo video they posted does look pretty impressive. Is t…

Art direction has more influence on realism than hardware capability. Good visual artists can get much closer to "real" than poor artists simply by choosing what to depict.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #102

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>Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. These are gaming GPUs being announced at a games conference to an audience of gamers and games journalists. The focus of Huang's talk was how accelerated ray tracing will improve the graphical fidelity of games. GPU compute is a spin-off from gaming. Gamers remain the primary market. They generate the volume that allows Nvidia to sell a supercomputer on a car…

The point was different - it is way too expensive for regular gamers, 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either and 10 games featuring RTX in the nearly future is not a sufficient draw, especially when some of the effects now look subjectively worse with RTX ON (see those shadows from multiple lights above dancing people from Jenson's demo). So the question remains - who is the real target…

I'm gaming at 4k60fps ultra everything modern games on a single 1080ti right now.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Then most likely they would not be successful in their businesses; training older models or newer ones with a batch of 1 is not a recipe for success these days when you more like need 100s of GPUs running slight modifications to models in parallel to find the one that works.

Most people I know who publish in NIPS/ICLR train their models using between 1-4 GPUs under their desk or 8 GPUs in a server. I would argue that these folks make competitive models and "are successful in their business" with only 1-8 GPUs. While having access to hundreds of GPUs helps you explore model space more quickly, it's not a hard pre-requisite to success in Deep Learning.

Yup, state of the art doesn't require GPU farms, just a couple in a consumer desktop will do.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #48

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Then most likely they would not be successful in their businesses; training older models or newer ones with a batch of 1 is not a recipe for success these days when you more like need 100s of GPUs running slight modifications to models in parallel to find the one that works.

Most people I know who publish in NIPS/ICLR train their models using between 1-4 GPUs under their desk or 8 GPUs in a server. I would argue that these folks make competitive models and "are successful in their business" with only 1-8 GPUs. While having access to hundreds of GPUs helps you explore model space more quickly, it's not a hard pre-requisite to success in Deep Learning.

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Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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2080 Ti FE, 1259 Euros. All US companies follow this simple formula: $ to Euro 1:1, add 25% and then add 50-60 Euros for Free Shipping.

It's the 2-year warranty, translation of manuals and a need to have office in all major EU markets due to different legal stuff that makes it all pricier.

You dont need an office in every EU market, thats the thing about the EU, thats it one big singular (or connected) market, and if you can sell your stuff in one EU country, you can sell it in all of them. (very few restricstions apply)
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