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Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by mattnewport »

djsumdog wrote: post #79

I feel like there is a hard limit on rendering tech right now. We saw 4k upgrades to the PS4/xbox and next gen consoles might be a way off. I thought the gaming industry was waiting for hardware that would let you render Marvel movie style graphics. Things that just barely hit that uncanny divide; that would give the player comic book film style immersions. The demo video they posted does look pretty impressive. Is t…

Realtime ray tracing will take us there and this is the first hardware generation to offer dedicated hardware acceleration for that which makes it practical for games for the first time. Don't expect things to change over night though, it will be a while before this hardware is mainstream and a while before rendering engines are designed around it. We'll see hybrid rendering approaches first and there's no upper limit on the horizon for the amount of compute that can be burned to improve visuals.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by jdietrich »

bitL wrote: post #12

Hmm, 24%-42% performance increase (14/16TFlops vs 11.3TFlops) for 70-90% price increase... And prices were already inflated by crypto that is now collapsing. Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. Still only 11GB RAM, even if 50% faster, making it a nonsense purchase for Deep Learning enthusiasts (state-of-art models are already larger). Unless somebody invented RTX-based coin of course, then this…

>Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly.

These are gaming GPUs being announced at a games conference to an audience of gamers and games journalists. The focus of Huang's talk was how accelerated ray tracing will improve the graphical fidelity of games.

GPU compute is a spin-off from gaming. Gamers remain the primary market. They generate the volume that allows Nvidia to sell a supercomputer on a card for under $1000. If you want a professional product, Nvidia are more than happy to sell you a Tesla or a Quadro at a professional price point.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by Keyframe »

bitL wrote: post #85
Keyframe wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2080 Ti FE, 1259 Euros. All US companies follow this simple formula: $ to Euro 1:1, add 25% and then add 50-60 Euros for Free Shipping.

It's the 2-year warranty, translation of manuals and a need to have office in all major EU markets due to different legal stuff that makes it all pricier.

Either you're missing a smiley or you're serious. You can't be serious.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by corysama »

gabcoh wrote: post #16

Does anyone know how they are offering better raytracing performance? Are there new api’s or something?

There is a new API. It’s currently pretty opaque. There’s a comment from a former ex-Nvidia employee I can’t find that explains that the new chips have hardware support for ray-triangle intersection tests and some sort of bounding-volume-hierarchy traversal built in.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by selectodude »

djsumdog wrote: post #79

I feel like there is a hard limit on rendering tech right now. We saw 4k upgrades to the PS4/xbox and next gen consoles might be a way off. I thought the gaming industry was waiting for hardware that would let you render Marvel movie style graphics. Things that just barely hit that uncanny divide; that would give the player comic book film style immersions. The demo video they posted does look pretty impressive. Is t…

VR is still very limited by available GPUs. Current headsets suck (low res, small screens, low refresh rate) and current GPUs aren't enough. If/when VR headsets get better, GPUs will fall behind even more.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by Zach_the_Lizard »

bitL wrote: post #85
Keyframe wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2080 Ti FE, 1259 Euros. All US companies follow this simple formula: $ to Euro 1:1, add 25% and then add 50-60 Euros for Free Shipping.

It's the 2-year warranty, translation of manuals and a need to have office in all major EU markets due to different legal stuff that makes it all pricier.

Don't forget taxes. US prices are typically listed without tax included, whereas I'm guessing the European ones include VAT.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by izacus »

old-gregg wrote: post #24

Putting AI/ML aside, I have a question for graphics experts or/and gamers: what is the practical [1] ceiling of the current champion, the 1080ti? I was under impression that that card already was much more than most people needed. In other words, is the new generation only useful for 4K gaming? [1] By "practical" I mean on 1440p@144Hz monitors.

Last time I checked (when I was thinking of buying it), 1080Ti isn't even close to being able to push 4K/60fps on high settings in newest games.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by foota »

magnat wrote: post #7

Using DNN for generating higher resolution images[1] in realtime at fraction of the performance cost is quite brilliant. Is there any info it if this is nvidia proprietary technology or general feature of DirectX Raytracing that will eventually be available also from AMD and Intel? [1] Though showing CT/medical imaging as one of it's applications is a big no-no

I think this will integrate with Microsoft new Ray tracing api?

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by visionscaper »

mattnewport wrote: post #81
asparagui wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A couple of sites have said 384 TC's, which would be approximately ~50% of the v100/new high-end Quadro card. Would like to see a confirmed source as well.

Yeah, it seems at the moment that there's no confirmation on to what degree they're actually enabled either. It may well be that NVidia will make them available for inference via DirectX so they can do AI based denoising and anti aliasing in games but artificially limit support in frameworks for training so as not to eat into the Quadro / Tesla markets. I'm holding off on ordering one until I see more info on that.

> It may well be that NVidia will make them available for inference via DirectX so they can do AI based denoising and anti aliasing in games but artificially limit support in frameworks for training so as not to eat into the Quadro / Tesla markets. I'm holding off on ordering one until I see more info on that.

Good point, that would not be cool. I'll wait with ordering until more is known about this.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by Cyph0n »

Keyframe wrote: post #93
bitL wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the 2-year warranty, translation of manuals and a need to have office in all major EU markets due to different legal stuff that makes it all pricier.

Either you're missing a smiley or you're serious. You can't be serious.

So you expect the things he mentioned are provided for free?
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