IMO: Cannabis rewards you for doing nothing.
More Americans report near-constant cannabis use
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think addiction or overuse is a problem for regular CBD users. I think this article is referring to addiction to the pyschological effects of THC.
Great point and I concur: The people I know who struggle with this are not CBD users - so yes let's keep those two things separate in this discussion for sure.
People will struggle with addiction for literally anything you can be addicted to, substances or not. Can be generally positive things like exercise, more neutral things, or negative things like very-damaging drugs (alcohol is here certainly).
Where does weed fall on that line? I don't really know. But saying we should ban something because it's possible to be addicted to it is fairly silly.
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> they're going to be psychological and we're in kind of new territory. It may be new territory for you, but I can assure you that grown adults have been smoking pot for a long time, and understand the psychological effects and their limits.
No. I believe staying high all day changes people quite fundamentally, I feel this way because I know people who have changed due to it, and one whom I knew only as 'stoned always' who quit one day for no apparent reason and his life fundamentally changed. You probably have heard of him, actually.
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#24It's unconventional given the liberal/libertarian aspects of the current movement, but this is a problem. I know at least two people very well, and a few more less well who smoke - all - the - time. They vape it like tobacco. They are basically permanently 'kind of high' - completely functional, you'd never really know it to meet them ... but this is more than a little distressing. One is in finance, the other a heal…
Cross-generation, too--it will take a long time to know. (Usage isn't new, but it will increase.)
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#25I know people that have kicked opiates and tobacco cold turkey - but who could not give up using cannabis if their lives depended on it. This is a legitimate concern in the current tide of de-criminalization / legalization.
That's more than a little bit anecdotal, physical and psychological dependence on cannabis ranks well below opiates, tobacco, even alcohol. Not to mention the fact that people's lives literally do depend on quitting opiates and tobacco, while cannabis not at all.
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If you'd never really know it to meet them, what about their usage is distressing? Most people are "basically permanently 'kind of high'" on caffeine, or nicotine, or both. Is that distressing?
For one, I also have family members who are very alcoholic and 'you'd never know it' either, i.e. fairly highly functional. The effects of caffeine and nicotine are mild, and mostly physical. Especially with nicotine, it's a 'maintenance addiction' in that smoking in addicts is mostly to get to 'stay normal' because the body has adjusted dopamine receptors. A little bit similar with caffeine in that we build a tolera…
> The effects of caffeine and nicotine are mild, and mostly physical
The primary effect of caffeine is mental alertness.
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#27IMO: Cannabis rewards you for doing nothing.
That's a bit hyperbolic. Definitely not true for everyone.
I can't consume cannabis and sit still. I really have to be out doing something.
It affects everyone differently.
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#28Slightly off topic: Do cannabis have any significant advantage to health?
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#29It's unconventional given the liberal/libertarian aspects of the current movement, but this is a problem. I know at least two people very well, and a few more less well who smoke - all - the - time. They vape it like tobacco. They are basically permanently 'kind of high' - completely functional, you'd never really know it to meet them ... but this is more than a little distressing. One is in finance, the other a heal…
You didn't list what you think the problem is.
The problem isn't listed because it viewed as self evident to some people. I'd list the problem of having high functional people who use marijuana everyday as:
A - MJ, while a mild drug, is still a drug, and it seems like people who use it everyday are addicts.
B - On the one hand I'm OK with people making their own decisions as to how they want to live their life, but on the other hand if we are talking about the type of society that we want to have, lots of people taking hallucinogens to get through the day doesn't exactly fit the image. Something seems wrong.
C - We don't really know the long term impacts of doing this. It is probably somewhat bad somehow, even if we don't know exactly how.
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#30I know people that have kicked opiates and tobacco cold turkey - but who could not give up using cannabis if their lives depended on it. This is a legitimate concern in the current tide of de-criminalization / legalization.
So, you're saying that cannabis is more addictive than both opiates and tobacco?