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Facebook addiction linked to staking your self-worth on social acceptance
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Re: Facebook addiction linked to staking your self-worth on social acceptance
#122Someone needs to figure out a way to clone Facebook circa 2005 and just call the site something other than 'Facebook'. Back then it was an amazing resource for university students and only allowed people with .edu email addresses from more reputable schools to join. You could use Facebook to access your course schedule and see lists of everyone that was in each of your classes. Gradually they relaxed the rules and started allowing faculty to join, then junior college students, etc.
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Cute, but your analogy is somewhat flawed as fentanyl is like heroin on steroids. (As long as we’re mixing metaphors...) What the world really needs is the naloxone of social networks.
You misinterpret me, I'm not asking what the world needs, I'm asking what it's possible to give them for profit. If wondering if we could create a social network that offers 50x the social validation (fentanyl is like 50x the potency of heroin). Maybe machine learning can find the right combination of color flashes to cause people to have a social bliss seizure. Maybe while simultaneously reading their rapid eye move…
Eventually someone is going to invent wireheading and none of this will matter. Most people will hook themselves up and never return.
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#124Social media wasn’t always like this. I think back to the ways I used Twitter, Facebook and Instagram in the early days and they were completely different than they way they are used today. They were personal, real time, and no one cared about “likes”. I think a lot of the problems with social media today could be solved just by removing “the numbers.” If suddenly all the like, follower, following, and comment counts…
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#125I actually had a discussion today about someone considering whether they should say "Happy birthday" because that other person didn't do that previously. Finally my response was "who gives a shit, it's Facebook, it doesn't fucking matter. Just unfriend her instead of bitching about it." That didn't resonate very well and the person had a very sullen attitude. but I stand by my statement. Facebook isn't that important…
They were probably more upset at your rude tone than your stance on facebook.
A nicer way to say it: "It's just facebook so i wouldnt worry about it. Do whatever you think is right and if theyre your friend in sure they'll appreciate it"
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#126What about HN's addiction to news about facebook? I thought after a year of relentless facebook spam, we were past this. Now the top two posts are about facebook. We have to kick this habit.
When facebook stops being an important facet in many peoples lives, we can stop talking about it. Until then, we cant.
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#127I actually had a discussion today about someone considering whether they should say "Happy birthday" because that other person didn't do that previously. Finally my response was "who gives a shit, it's Facebook, it doesn't fucking matter. Just unfriend her instead of bitching about it." That didn't resonate very well and the person had a very sullen attitude. but I stand by my statement. Facebook isn't that important…
They were probably more upset at your rude tone than your stance on facebook. A nicer way to say it: "It's just facebook so i wouldnt worry about it. Do whatever you think is right and if theyre your friend in sure they'll appreciate it"
The person just wouldn't drop the issue and I did approach it softer and even attempted to change the subject. After 5 minutes of complaining about something so trivial I had enough. This is not the first time this person has obsessed and complained about something on Facebook.
And I totally agree at that point I was rude
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please accept my sincerest condolences for the death of your family member. In some ways I followed a similar path to that of your relative, in part because I often obtain validation by publicly satirizing elements of society I think are wrong. I've found satire the best tool in my toolbox at sparking conversation and even changing minds. I've considered your proposal, and respectfully choose to continue the path I'm…
Wait, now you’re claiming that your original post was satire? Perhaps you should clarify that to the multiple people who have responded with comments in earnest. Regarding your claimed motive to cast a negative light on the victimizers, uhhh... yeah. That might be believable, except that you’re doing the exact opposite in this thread. I hate to break it to you, but leaving insensitive comments about addiction which y…
Yikes! I get that you don't believe me, but I sincerely was trying to be respectful of your opinion and your grief. I've had quite a lot of death in my family, so I empathize with the grief people experience during similar times.
A lifetime of things, good and bad made me this way. I don't agree that I have any particular pathos I need to nail down, but being better is always the goal, right?
This whole thing just turned into a whirlwind of Poe's law.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funnily enough, Snapchat doesn't seem to have this particular downside. It has points/scoring, but they were always somewhat hidden away and I'm not sure if anyone took them very seriously. Like the rest of the app's UX, and sort of ranking cryptic and obfuscated (like the emojis signifying how your friends compared to you) and not made into an emphasis.
I had the impression some people were obsessed with the "streak" feature on Snapchat.
A streak is a 1-5 minute thing at most for those who are obsessed with it. Many people in that category send out a single "streak" snap to everyone they have a streak with. You can't spend the same 20 minutes of Instagram scrolling with streaks. I don't think it's a completely harmless thing, but it's not in the same category at all.
Re: Facebook addiction linked to staking your self-worth on social acceptance
#130Social media wasn’t always like this. I think back to the ways I used Twitter, Facebook and Instagram in the early days and they were completely different than they way they are used today. They were personal, real time, and no one cared about “likes”. I think a lot of the problems with social media today could be solved just by removing “the numbers.” If suddenly all the like, follower, following, and comment counts…
> ... the ways I used Twitter [etc]
> ... completely different than they way they are used today.
Are you conflating the way that you would interact with a social media site, and the way that most people would -- rather than comparing both sets of people over time?
TFA's focus is on the addictive aspect of FB (etc) -- and clearly FB (etc) are constantly improving their psychological toolkit in order to obtain and retain eyeballs -- but I don't think the quantifying of likes is the main tool in their kit. Worse, they're not likely to voluntarily reduce the efficacy of their methods.