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Post by vivab0rg »

some_account wrote: post #212
skywhopper wrote: post #128

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"My next laptop will probably not be a mac." Yeah, you aren't the only one. They are seriously throwing away all the goodwill and reputation they'd built up over the past 20 years, over features no one is asking for like the touch bar and a ridiculously short key throw.

I already switched away from Apple to Linux in the last few months, and it's been awakening my passion for computers again. Best desktop environment for people who want a very good looking desktop is Deepin, and the Manjaro Community Edition with Deepin has been rock stable, very fast and very beautiful for me during the last few months I've been using it. Highly recommended. You don't need a MacBook anymore for thin…

Ubuntu Budgie could be just as nice as Deepin, plus it makes sense if you also have Ubuntu on your servers.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by ryanmonroe »

dshep wrote: post #156
coin wrote: post #122

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Except for the off-center trackpad. Why is it so hard to find a PC laptop with a centered trackpad?

I hadn't ever noticed that, but it must be because of the trackpoint. The trackpoint is centered in between the home keys so you can reach it with your index fingers, mouse buttons below that for thumbs, and thus trackpad below buttons. The root issue is that the place you rest your hands on a qwerty keyboard is slightly left of center. Edit: now I can't unsee that MBP has its trackpad right of home key center :)

Well, it has a thinkpad-sized trackpad directly under the home-key center, plus some extra area to the right ;)

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by jsjohnst »

shimms wrote: post #136
jsjohnst wrote: post #133

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> I think the issue will be that either your Mac will be unsupported What precedent do you have for believing that to be true? The only time Apple has done that in the past is major platform changes (aka PowerPC and later 32bit CoreDuos). Unless Apple shifts to ARM (which is easily a couple years out at best) or Intel comes out with a 128bit processor (which isn’t even remotely on the roadmap), I’d say you are safe f…

My 2012 Mac Pro (cheese grater) can’t run Mojave since the GPU doesn’t support Metal. There are aftermarket GPUs available, but it’s becoming an ongoing chore to keep the machine running the latest macOS features (needed new wifi card to support handoff and watch unlock etc). New wifi, SSD, usb3 etc are relatively cheap. The new GPU is getting more expensive and is now actually blocking keeping up to date with major…

I’m running Mojave on my cheese grater 2011 Mac Pro, but I’m guessing that’s because I already had upgraded the graphics cards and didn’t realize it (also upgraded CPUs, RAM, and a bunch of other stuff too). The cheese grater Mac Pros were one of the best machines Apple ever shipped imho.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by jsjohnst »

kalleboo wrote: post #137
jsjohnst wrote: post #133

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> I think the issue will be that either your Mac will be unsupported What precedent do you have for believing that to be true? The only time Apple has done that in the past is major platform changes (aka PowerPC and later 32bit CoreDuos). Unless Apple shifts to ARM (which is easily a couple years out at best) or Intel comes out with a 128bit processor (which isn’t even remotely on the roadmap), I’d say you are safe f…

macOS 10.12 Sierra killed support for Macs with CPUs that didn't support SSE4.1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra#System_requiremen...

I had missed that. Thanks for calling it out!

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Post by stevep001 »

pier25 wrote: post #232
scandox wrote: post #224

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I just find the touch experience on Surface to be completely lamentable and the hybrid desktop-tablet interface boggles my mind. I agree the hardware is fantastic but I find Windows 10 intolerable.

I agree. Windows 10 is not ready to be used property as a tablet. For example, the only way to get a slider to adjust display brightness was opening the OS display settings. At least that was the case the last time I tried it.

Brighter = Fn + Del Dimmer = Fn + Backspace

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by eropple »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #165
eropple wrote: post #31

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The X1 is nice but the T480 is only a little bigger, handles heat a lot better, and has (mine does, at least) about 16 hours of battery life under Fedora. It's hard to really recommend the X1 (or T480s) as a developer machine, IMO.

The current t480 is great, $2500 buys you an incredible rig.

Yeah. I paid $1600 and I'm thrilled with mine. Though, fair warning, dealing with Lenovo-the-company is a profound and terrible shitshow.

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Post by prolikewh0a »

beenBoutIT wrote: post #184
skywhopper wrote: post #128

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"My next laptop will probably not be a mac." Yeah, you aren't the only one. They are seriously throwing away all the goodwill and reputation they'd built up over the past 20 years, over features no one is asking for like the touch bar and a ridiculously short key throw.

Apple without Steve Jobs is your favorite restaurant with new management. You want it to be the same so you try not to notice that it's gone to shit, but eventually you realize that the guy running the place was what made it so good.

Remember this?

https://techcrunch.com/2010/06/24/iphone-4-antenna-issue/

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Post by Fnoord »

gaius wrote: post #241
ChristianGeek wrote: post #202

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I’ve been using Macs since 1984. I even made it through the crap the company was producing during Jobs’ first absence (albeit barely). Right now my daily computer (which gets at least 10 hours of use a day) is a maxed out 2014 MBP. I love it...it’s the best laptop I’ve ever used, Windows or Mac. If it were to die today, however, I’d replace it with a 2015 MBP. I’ve been keeping my eye on the Surface too, and if it ke…

I’ve been keeping my eye on the Surface too You won’t regret Surface, fantastic hardware and W10 is not nearly as bad as the haters say, esp. with WSL now. I’m a switcher from MBP myself and I am very happy with the decision.

Homebrew/Debian (derived) > Cygwin/Chocolatey/WSL any time of the day. Though I'm not sure about Time Machine. Seems to not work with symlinks or hardlinks or something? Why would it still be this terrible given APFS? That should be able to handle snapshots fairly well?

My MBP is luckily the last decent one (MBP 2015) and it has 16 GB DDR3 and 256 GB SSD. However it does have an Intel GPU, and only 2,2 GHz quad core i7.

Since I'm on 400 cycles at about 5% battery loss and a few minor but annoying damages on the screen I'm gonna get the latter repaired. Problem is I'm not sure how they got there in the first place. So I'm not sure how to prevent it. And the time to get such fixed is withering away. Tick tock, 2015 was 3 years ago.

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Post by prolikewh0a »

ashishb wrote: post #189
saudioger wrote: post #115

IMO the 2015 Macbook Pro is one of the best laptops ever made. Don't know why they went and messed that up. I solidly regret the 2017 version. I've had one keyboard replacement already (that required the logic board to be replaced, seriously). Since then, I've already lost two keycaps. I've been ordering replacements online because they wanted me to ship it out for repair. My 2015 Macbook is being used daily by a fri…

> My next laptop will probably not be a mac. What will it be? To be fair, I am not a fan of Macs but I haven't seen any good GNU/Linux laptops which have proper Wi-Fi, sleep, and battery usage out of the box. Do you have any recommendations?

XPS 13 works fully out of the box with Linux as Dell has all of the drivers ported because they sell the XPS 13 developer edition with Ubuntu.

Best laptop I've ever owned. Starting to roll them out at work too as Linux machines replacing new Macbook Pro's.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by prolikewh0a »

satysin wrote: post #234
adamqureshi wrote: post #129

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I am "about" to order one monday. $3,400 with double the ram + tax (NYC). wish me luck! any feedback?

Not really. I got the i9/32GB/1TB model. It is fantastic. The only "issue" I have had is related to the Mojave beta which is kind of to be expected with a beta. Everything about this machine is basically perfect. As I said I even love the keyboard. It is really nice to type on for hours at a time. Yes it feels kinda weird at first but it really isn't as bad as people make out. It is is much, much nicer to type on tha…

>It is is much, much nicer to type on than my XPS 13 which has very mushy keys that just feel uncomfortable.

Going to strongly disagree with you here as this seems like major shilling.

XPS 13 keyboard while not the best, is still miles better than the 2018 Macbook Pro keyboard which is a complete disgrace to typing. I have to jump over to my external keyboard when using my MacBook Pro at work.

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