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Impossible Burgers’ key, bloody ingredient gets long awaited nod from FDA

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I wouldn’t trust anything the FDA approves after watching the Netflix series on how it is simply a big Pharma publishing house now.

It’s so reliant on company money that it can’t do its duty to protect the people it is supposed to protect.

Re: Impossible Burgers’ key, bloody ingredient gets long awaited nod from FDA

#52

I've had several impossible burgers and they completely live up to the hype. They taste very good indeed. But I have noticed a slight uptick in anxiety after eating them, maybe 30 mins after or so. This anxiety comes out of the blue, the first few burgers I had, I had zero health or safety thoughts in my mind that might have precipitated the anxiety. Interested if anyone else has had a similar experience.

The problem with trying to replace meat. Is the unknowns about why we survived as carnivores for thousands upon thousands of years and our current obsession to suddenly play god with a food supply.

We don’t know what we don’t know. And impossible doesn’t know why there would be side effects. Or they do and you’ll not know.

Buy grass fed organic meat and eat less of it. We already eat too much.

Re: Impossible Burgers’ key, bloody ingredient gets long awaited nod from FDA

#53

I've had several impossible burgers and they completely live up to the hype. They taste very good indeed. But I have noticed a slight uptick in anxiety after eating them, maybe 30 mins after or so. This anxiety comes out of the blue, the first few burgers I had, I had zero health or safety thoughts in my mind that might have precipitated the anxiety. Interested if anyone else has had a similar experience.

The problem with trying to replace meat. Is the unknowns about why we survived as carnivores for thousands upon thousands of years and our current obsession to suddenly play god with a food supply. We don’t know what we don’t know. And impossible doesn’t know why there would be side effects. Or they do and you’ll not know. Buy grass fed organic meat and eat less of it. We already eat too much.

I think Buddhists would disagree that humanity has survived solely as carnivores for thousands of years. Plenty of other cultures have existed on solely vegetarian/vegan diets as well, throughout history. Peasants within meat-eating cultures also did not always have frequent access to meat, and thus ate primarily vegetarian, or perhaps pescatarian. The idea that humans have always eaten meat and that it’s an essential part of the human diet is a myth.

Re: Impossible Burgers’ key, bloody ingredient gets long awaited nod from FDA

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

English is not my first language, so I always assumed blood and bleeding refer to any red liquid. I mean, we talk about blood oranges [0] and bleeding trees [1] and no one assumes there is any real blood involved. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_orange [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corymbia_opaca

That's true, but when you are talking about meat, it's usually safe to assume 'bleed' means to 'bleed blood'.

When people refer to a “bloody steak”, they aren’t implying the red liquid is actually blood.

Re: Impossible Burgers’ key, bloody ingredient gets long awaited nod from FDA

#55

I've had several impossible burgers and they completely live up to the hype. They taste very good indeed. But I have noticed a slight uptick in anxiety after eating them, maybe 30 mins after or so. This anxiety comes out of the blue, the first few burgers I had, I had zero health or safety thoughts in my mind that might have precipitated the anxiety. Interested if anyone else has had a similar experience.

The problem with trying to replace meat. Is the unknowns about why we survived as carnivores for thousands upon thousands of years and our current obsession to suddenly play god with a food supply. We don’t know what we don’t know. And impossible doesn’t know why there would be side effects. Or they do and you’ll not know. Buy grass fed organic meat and eat less of it. We already eat too much.

The one sure thing about humans in terms of diet is opportunistic omnivorousness. We were never herbivore or carnivores, and the fact that we would gladly chew leaves, eat fruit in season, and suck the marrow from a bone we found all contributed to our lasting success. We’re definitely not, and have never been dietary specialists.

Eat meat or don’t (I do), but don’t kid yourself about some historical or dietary imperitive, and don’t ignore a couple of million years of our and our ancestors’ omnivorous history. It’s also unwise to argue from a historical precedent that has little or no relevance unless you’re cranking out kids in your teens, hunting and gathering, and dying young. We’ve spent a lot of time and energy removing ourselves from the demanding lives of our distant ancestors, and plenty of them ate mostly plants and thrived. Remember gladiators? https://archive.archaeology.org/0811/abstracts/gladiator.htm...

Yeah, eating meat is a choice we make, and only one some of us are lucky to be able to make. History is full of us eating meat, and full of us (especially the poor in all ages) eating mostly or exclusively grain, pulses, and vegetables with some diary I’d they were lucky.

Re: Impossible Burgers’ key, bloody ingredient gets long awaited nod from FDA

#56

I've had several impossible burgers and they completely live up to the hype. They taste very good indeed. But I have noticed a slight uptick in anxiety after eating them, maybe 30 mins after or so. This anxiety comes out of the blue, the first few burgers I had, I had zero health or safety thoughts in my mind that might have precipitated the anxiety. Interested if anyone else has had a similar experience.

Not for me. I've tried and it's...well, it's not bad, but I don't find it meaty or burger-like in anyway.

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#57
post #14

I don't get the point of having a veggie burger bleed. I tried an Impossible Burger a while ago and didn't find it that great. It doesn't taste like real meat and is just an average veggie burger. I think it's more of a gimmick.

Many people don't care if it's meat or vegetables as long as it looks and tastes like meat to them. So the goal could be to reduce harm to the environment by reducing the amount of animals being farmed for meat. Not necessarily get rid of all animal farming just reduce it. There is a lot of waste in the meat industry in the US and Canada. Many countries all over the world eat all the animal but in the US and Canada y…

I always assumed the unpopular meat parts got turned into hot dogs, sausages or something like that. Am I wrong?

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post #8

They're baking up soy hemoglobin in yeast and purifying it to add to non-meat burgers. This is particularly neat considering how complex the human heme synthetic pathway is. I suspect even in soy, it's more than just producing a "pre-(a-)"protein-- you'd have to make a few other enzymes along the heme synthetic pathway and provide an environment conducive to them working. It does make me wonder, why soy? Corn and ric…

I’m not an expert, but I know that soy is used as a nitrogen replacing plant during crop rotation. So it’s possible that the cost of soy is lower than rice or corn, as it’s an off cycle replenishing plant.

Jan 2018 cost per ton: Soy: 405 Corn: 155 Rice: 442

Well! There goes that idea! Is the US corn subsidy the reason it’s so much cheaper?

Re: Impossible Burgers’ key, bloody ingredient gets long awaited nod from FDA

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always get this wheezy feeling like a little bit of fluid is building up in my lungs after I eat the impossible burger. I don't know what causes it; the only thing I can think of is maybe the unusually high iron content (at least compared to anything else in a plant-based diet).

Could you be having an allergic reaction to an ingredient?

I didn't consider that; it's quite possible. Luckily the reaction is pretty mild.

Re: Impossible Burgers’ key, bloody ingredient gets long awaited nod from FDA

#60

I wouldn’t trust anything the FDA approves after watching the Netflix series on how it is simply a big Pharma publishing house now. It’s so reliant on company money that it can’t do its duty to protect the people it is supposed to protect.

That doesn't make any sense as a reason to distrust at all. They /have/ to go to the FDA to get it approved if they plan on being legitimate medicine. That would be like saying that you can't trust drug testing labs to report honestly because they depend on the patients for blood and urine samples.
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