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The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by SalimoS »

radley wrote: post #120
saudioger wrote: post #115

IMO the 2015 Macbook Pro is one of the best laptops ever made. Don't know why they went and messed that up. I solidly regret the 2017 version. I've had one keyboard replacement already (that required the logic board to be replaced, seriously). Since then, I've already lost two keycaps. I've been ordering replacements online because they wanted me to ship it out for repair. My 2015 Macbook is being used daily by a fri…

I'm running a mid 2012 i7 MBP (bought at release) w/ 16GB & a 2TB SSD (recently upgraded from a 1TB SSD). I also have a keyboard overlay as a precaution, since I've had to replace keyboards on previous Macs due to spills or sloppy cleaning. My 2012 is decent, but 2013 - 1015 MBPs are the best.

Me too have to 2012 no retina MBP, I upgraded the HDD to an SSD 500Gb and the RAM from 4GB to 10BG Im more than satisfied but still stressed when I think about the upgrade

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by coin »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #43
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

I'm looking at the new Thinkpad P1 and it's everything I hoped the last Macbook Pro update would be. Way things are going I'll be very surprised if my next machine is a Macbook when my 2015 needs replacing.

Except for the off-center trackpad. Why is it so hard to find a PC laptop with a centered trackpad?

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by symfoniq »

coin wrote: post #122
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm looking at the new Thinkpad P1 and it's everything I hoped the last Macbook Pro update would be. Way things are going I'll be very surprised if my next machine is a Macbook when my 2015 needs replacing.

Except for the off-center trackpad. Why is it so hard to find a PC laptop with a centered trackpad?

The ThinkPad P1 trackpad is centered.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by bluecat22 »

radley wrote: post #120
saudioger wrote: post #115

IMO the 2015 Macbook Pro is one of the best laptops ever made. Don't know why they went and messed that up. I solidly regret the 2017 version. I've had one keyboard replacement already (that required the logic board to be replaced, seriously). Since then, I've already lost two keycaps. I've been ordering replacements online because they wanted me to ship it out for repair. My 2015 Macbook is being used daily by a fri…

I'm running a mid 2012 i7 MBP (bought at release) w/ 16GB & a 2TB SSD (recently upgraded from a 1TB SSD). I also have a keyboard overlay as a precaution, since I've had to replace keyboards on previous Macs due to spills or sloppy cleaning. My 2012 is decent, but 2013 - 1015 MBPs are the best.

I think the issue will be that either your Mac will be unsupported for OSX Mojave or at most in an year or so while your machine physically will still be in good working condition.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by tedunangst »

jhdsrt wrote: post #102
pertymcpert wrote: post #95

Why is the T2 panic any worse than a normal panic? It's a bug, they happen. And before someone says that they're only needed for the Touch Bar, a) they chose to buy the Touch Bar version, and b) T2 and future chips will handle much more.

> Why is the T2 panic any worse than a normal panic? It's a bug, they happen. They do happen. They shouldn't. No matter what subsystem causes the kernel panic I don't see why you would think they are acceptable. However, a problem with T2 is worse than other subsystems because... > And before someone says that they're only needed for the Touch Bar, a) they chose to buy the Touch Bar version, and b) T2 and future chip…

How does one conclude that a kernel panic means the T2 is insecure? The kernel trusts the T2, not the other way around.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by DenisM »

saudioger wrote: post #115

IMO the 2015 Macbook Pro is one of the best laptops ever made. Don't know why they went and messed that up. I solidly regret the 2017 version. I've had one keyboard replacement already (that required the logic board to be replaced, seriously). Since then, I've already lost two keycaps. I've been ordering replacements online because they wanted me to ship it out for repair. My 2015 Macbook is being used daily by a fri…

No one ever gets a promotion by leaving a 3-year old design intact.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by skywhopper »

saudioger wrote: post #115

IMO the 2015 Macbook Pro is one of the best laptops ever made. Don't know why they went and messed that up. I solidly regret the 2017 version. I've had one keyboard replacement already (that required the logic board to be replaced, seriously). Since then, I've already lost two keycaps. I've been ordering replacements online because they wanted me to ship it out for repair. My 2015 Macbook is being used daily by a fri…

"My next laptop will probably not be a mac."

Yeah, you aren't the only one. They are seriously throwing away all the goodwill and reputation they'd built up over the past 20 years, over features no one is asking for like the touch bar and a ridiculously short key throw.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by adamqureshi »

satysin wrote: post #28
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

No issues with my 2018 15" MBP. Runs perfect, solid battery life, cool and quiet. No kernel panics or any other crashes in 3 weeks of owning it. Edit: Should mention I have only restarted it two or three times in those 3 weeks so it has had plenty of time to crash

I am "about" to order one monday. $3,400 with double the ram + tax (NYC). wish me luck! any feedback?

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by coin »

symfoniq wrote: post #123
coin wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except for the off-center trackpad. Why is it so hard to find a PC laptop with a centered trackpad?

The ThinkPad P1 trackpad is centered.

It looks slightly off center to the left https://www.lenovo.com/medias/Thinkpad-p1-hero.png?context=b...
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