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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by sofaofthedamned »

collyw wrote: post #75
sofaofthedamned wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good for you. There was no spyware in the slightest on my X1.

That you know about.

Good for you. Same goes for every box you use that you don't personally inspect the firmware source code for the NIC, ME, graphics card, USB, Thunderbolt controller, etc. Personally i'll stand on the shoulder of giants (people who do actually inspect this, I don't have the skills) and monitor the shit out of my network instead of worrying about it, because I can actually do that bit.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by collyw »

zouhair wrote: post #45
tbrock wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

First never a Lenovo ever again. Second that model doesn't have an Ethernet port, so that's another strike.

When it comes wit a dongle, why is that such a problem? The need to remember it? (Ethernet seems like a pretty uncommon thing these days).

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by selectodude »

viraptor wrote: post #79
Bud wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost every company? Except the one this thread is about...

I listed other companies which did just as bad things. Why would you trust (for example) Dell more than Lenovo in this case?

The thread is about Apple.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by bogomipz »

natvert wrote: post #42
satysin wrote: post #28

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No issues with my 2018 15" MBP. Runs perfect, solid battery life, cool and quiet. No kernel panics or any other crashes in 3 weeks of owning it. Edit: Should mention I have only restarted it two or three times in those 3 weeks so it has had plenty of time to crash

As much as I dislike the inability to repair or upgrade the new mbp 15", I have to agree. Mine works great.

Hasn't the inability to upgrade or repair the MBP been true for the last couple of generations of MBP as well though?

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by cptskippy »

bpicolo wrote: post #3
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Potentially a large part of that is just visibility into issues on account social media and distribution scale. People keep an eye on Apple hardware issues far closer than any other vendor

And most other vendors sell significantly fewer units across many more SKUs. Thus you would expect with a smaller product portfolio you'd have greater engineering resources to work out the kinks.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by jphalimi »

perl4ever wrote: post #71
jmull wrote: post #60

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Well, he certainly has a right to complain. But there are good reasons, both ethically and practically, not to let your frustrations get the better of you and rant publicly without first making reasonable efforts to get the problem corrected in the normal way.

Counterpoint: complaining publicly gets you attention from a big corporation, and as long as you don't seriously threaten the company, employees don't derive any animus from it. My default belief is that any large corporation is populated by fairly normal people on average without a deep loyalty to their employer.

While I understand your point, I think this guy really needs a chill pill. Give Apple some slack to fix a bug. There was, there is and there will always be bugs in software. Just report it. If one does not fix the problem on time, then it's fine to get angry. But overreacting like that won't help anything.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by dfox »

whytaka wrote: post #13
tbrock wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

You should take into consideration that for both IdeaPad (the superfish one) and ThinkPad Lenovo is not much more than brand. These two lines are designed and manufactured by completely separate corporations. What is somewhat funny in this regard is that the real maker of modern ThinkPads (probably at least since introduction of the letter-number nomenclature) is Acer/Wistron with Acer as a brand being mostly known for having sub-par quality. IdeaPads are AFAIK mostly made by Compal.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by nkkollaw »

bpicolo wrote: post #3
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Potentially a large part of that is just visibility into issues on account social media and distribution scale. People keep an eye on Apple hardware issues far closer than any other vendor

Yes, specially since class actions are needed just to make them acknowledge the problem (talking about their keyboards now).
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