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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by perl4ever »

jmull wrote: post #60
charlesism wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He can tweet about errors, and also speak with an Apple rep. There's no practical nor ethical reason for him to stay silent. He didn't sign an NDA when he bought his computer.

Well, he certainly has a right to complain. But there are good reasons, both ethically and practically, not to let your frustrations get the better of you and rant publicly without first making reasonable efforts to get the problem corrected in the normal way.

Counterpoint: complaining publicly gets you attention from a big corporation, and as long as you don't seriously threaten the company, employees don't derive any animus from it.

My default belief is that any large corporation is populated by fairly normal people on average without a deep loyalty to their employer.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by collyw »

whytaka wrote: post #13
tbrock wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

installed spyware on their hardware?

Can you explain more?

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by collyw »

Bud wrote: post #63
viraptor wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost every larger company these days has done something bad like that. Lenovo had superfish, HP had a keylogger, Dell had its own superfish, Acer still installs search toolbars and browser hijackers, depending on how far back you want to go Sony had the BMG rootkit and a camera backdoor, ... Who are you going to get your laptop from now of you ignore all of those - especially if you're going to reinstall your OS im…

Almost every company? Except the one this thread is about...

That we we know about.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by Brakenshire »

tbrock wrote: post #8
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Yes, I’m using an X1 Carbon with Fedora, no problems thus far. Hardware is solid, and drivers work without issue. Fedora does what you’d expect.

Only issue is battery life, maybe 4-7 hours with VSCode, Slack etc, but maybe you can’t complain too much given these are electron apps.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by collyw »

sofaofthedamned wrote: post #36
whytaka wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

Good for you. There was no spyware in the slightest on my X1.

That you know about.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by morganvachon »

viraptor wrote: post #39
whytaka wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

Almost every larger company these days has done something bad like that. Lenovo had superfish, HP had a keylogger, Dell had its own superfish, Acer still installs search toolbars and browser hijackers, depending on how far back you want to go Sony had the BMG rootkit and a camera backdoor, ... Who are you going to get your laptop from now of you ignore all of those - especially if you're going to reinstall your OS im…

> Who are you going to get your laptop from now of you ignore all of those - especially if you're going to reinstall your OS immediately anyway?

Clevo. They are a whitebox laptop manufacturer so you will find they are OEM for several smaller brands like MSI, Sager, and others. Yes they are Chinese market, but every laptop is made in China these days, even the big American names, so that part is unavoidable. If that truly is an issue you can't get around, you'll be happy to know that System76 is moving towards producing its devices in house in the United States[1], though I have no idea if the recent tariff wars have affected that situation.

[1] https://opensource.com/article/18/4/system76-us-manufacturin...

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by imwally »

Hmm, woke up to the same issue today. My 2018's lid was closed but the fans were spinning near full speed. I have a firmware password set so when it reboots it sits at the password prompt (why can't this timeout and shutdown after a certain period of inactivity?). The crash report indicated Bridge OS as well. This is also the second time it happened.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by collyw »

sofaofthedamned wrote: post #37
lykr0n wrote: post #17

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Arch is great. If not the wiki, the AUR and Trizen. Almost every piece of software I would want a few commands away. It's also surprisingly stable.

I love Fedora but the Arch wiki is the best authoritative source of fixes ever.

Agreed, and I have only ever installed Manjaro.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by viraptor »

Bud wrote: post #63
viraptor wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost every larger company these days has done something bad like that. Lenovo had superfish, HP had a keylogger, Dell had its own superfish, Acer still installs search toolbars and browser hijackers, depending on how far back you want to go Sony had the BMG rootkit and a camera backdoor, ... Who are you going to get your laptop from now of you ignore all of those - especially if you're going to reinstall your OS im…

Almost every company? Except the one this thread is about...

I listed other companies which did just as bad things. Why would you trust (for example) Dell more than Lenovo in this case?

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by bitL »

tqkxzugoaupvwqr wrote: post #24
Log1x wrote: post #11

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No love for Hackintosh? I run all of my machines with High Sierra and they are rock solid.

How much time did/do you spend reading and fiddling? If I knew setting up a machine (incl. picking hardware parts) is no hassle, I would build myself a desktop. For now I’m holding out for a new Mac mini.

My Hackintoshes take usually 3 days to set up 100% working; mostly issues with setting up Intel HD/NVidia and HDMI/DP audio properly. Obviously I do some research before buying hardware about the success of other people; some machines like most Intel NUCs or ASUS ZenBooks work flawlessly, sometimes even better than with Linux (which is my primary OS). On all Hackintoshes I have Linux, W7, W10 and macOS. Sometimes I have to buy Broadcom WiFi/BT PCIe module and replace Intel one. Frankly, getting W7 running on newer hardware (hello Threadripper!) is sometimes more difficult than installing macOS...
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