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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by setpatchaddress »

reaperducer wrote: post #56
mikec3010 wrote: post #38

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I wonder why apple doesn't allow or support Linux? I would happily buy a Mac pro (trashcan) or a mbp if it had solid Linux support. I think their hardware is awesome. But I have no interest in learning MacOS. The dealbreaker for me is no ctrl key in the corner

I wonder why apple doesn't allow or support Linux? I wonder if it might be possible somehow under Boot Camp. Or if on a machine as beefy as a Mac Pro if a VM would be good enough. I don't know enough about either to say definitively. The dealbreaker for me is no ctrl key in the corner System Preferences > Keyboard > Modifier Keys

You can use this to remap caps lock to control too — I do it.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by mirimir »

whytaka wrote: post #13
tbrock wrote: post #8

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Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

What about Apple retaining deleted browsing history in iCloud?[0]

0) https://www.macrumors.com/2017/02/09/icloud-storing-deleted-...

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by Bud »

viraptor wrote: post #39
whytaka wrote: post #13

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Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

Almost every larger company these days has done something bad like that. Lenovo had superfish, HP had a keylogger, Dell had its own superfish, Acer still installs search toolbars and browser hijackers, depending on how far back you want to go Sony had the BMG rootkit and a camera backdoor, ... Who are you going to get your laptop from now of you ignore all of those - especially if you're going to reinstall your OS im…

Almost every company? Except the one this thread is about...

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by setpatchaddress »

mikec3010 wrote: post #38
Log1x wrote: post #11

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No love for Hackintosh? I run all of my machines with High Sierra and they are rock solid.

I wonder why apple doesn't allow or support Linux? I would happily buy a Mac pro (trashcan) or a mbp if it had solid Linux support. I think their hardware is awesome. But I have no interest in learning MacOS. The dealbreaker for me is no ctrl key in the corner

You can install Linux on Macs.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by [deleted] »

mirimir wrote: post #62
whytaka wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

What about Apple retaining deleted browsing history in iCloud?[0] 0) https://www.macrumors.com/2017/02/09/icloud-storing-deleted-...

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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by sofaofthedamned »

mediocrejoker wrote: post #41
sofaofthedamned wrote: post #36

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Good for you. There was no spyware in the slightest on my X1.

I think you either missed or ignored the point the parent comment made regarding their reasons for avoiding Lenovo as a company, rather than strictly wishing to avoid spyware in one's own laptop.

I didn't miss it. Don't have any care or skin in the game when it comes to Lenovo, but their Thinkpads have never had this crap in there. When they do, i'm out. HP have crap in their installs, so do Dell. Hell, even Microsoft put Candy Crush in there and telemetry I can't uninstall.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by jchw »

cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Thinkpad P1 is looking pretty good.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by icebraining »

therein wrote: post #20
anbotero wrote: post #15

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It’s been a while since I even have a laptop (just a gaming desktop PC with Windows), but I’m glad people recommend Arch Linux. It certainly was the best I worked with until two years ago, for several years. Sure, it’s got its quirks, but they help you a lot to learn new stuff, and after that, it’s much easier to set it up again in case you needed (I only needed it once every two years or so).

I can't ever go back to CentOS/RHEL or Debian/Ubuntu for my personal machine after having seen the flexibility that Arch provides. Don't get me wrong, technically you can make Ubuntu just as flexible but you have to try to configure it that way. All the conveniences they brought into these distros for simple package management actually sets you up for failure when you are doing larger upgrades. Not to mention that th…

My Debian Unstable laptop installation is over ten years old (and on its third laptop), and the packages are pretty recent, since Unstable is a rolling version.

And despite the name, it's pretty solid, I don't remember the last issue I had with it.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by sofaofthedamned »

satysin wrote: post #50
sofaofthedamned wrote: post #36

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Good for you. There was no spyware in the slightest on my X1.

You checked the Windows Platform Binary Table in the BIOS/UEFI? That was how they delivered their crapware before. Even a clean install with your own media would inject a Lenovo exe into Windows directly from the BIOS with no way to disable it. Scary stuff.

Yup. Luckily i've got a friend who knows BIOS stuff like I could never do (Hi Greg) - nothing in there. Besides, it gets Fedora 28 installed and Windows is only used for doing firmware updates.

Which tbf Lenovo cocked up a couple of weeks ago and hosed the SSD firmware so it didn't boot. Luckily i'm not a moron so everything was backed up, they sent a new SSD and they picked up the old one to recover, which I assume will be a hardware firmware flash. I don't need the backup, but I am looking forward to Lenovo spending the money for the pickup/flash/delivery to make sure it costs them as much money as possible so they don't do this again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/943m9o/x1c6_ssd_f...

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by perl4ever »

knaik94 wrote: post #25
whytaka wrote: post #13

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Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

It's the difference between recommending the consumer line and business line, they are not related technically. Lenovo's consumer line is Ideapad, their business line is Thinkpad. If they tried something similar on a business line, they would go bankrupt because they would never get another contract again. It would fall under Industrial Espionage which is illegal. That's why governments and large corporations still b…

You sound awfully confident. This sort of distinction, where you declare something about the world to be certain as a consequence of a certain arbitrary categorization, I have an urge to call "nominative determinism" (although the phrase is generally used differently)
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