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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Did Apple refuse to hardware swap after the owner of the device performed a fresh install of macOS to see if the issues went away and they didn’t? Hardware defects occur. Get it replaced. If Apple refuses, then make a stink.

He can tweet about errors, and also speak with an Apple rep. There's no practical nor ethical reason for him to stay silent. He didn't sign an NDA when he bought his computer.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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As much as I dislike the inability to repair or upgrade the new mbp 15", I have to agree. Mine works great.

Yeah it is horrible how you can't repair or replace anything but it does work so damn well and I have had so much hassle with other laptops that I just thought fuck it and went with the MBP. I had a Surface Book 2 which was one of the worst laptop experiences I have had in the past decade and it was close to the MBP in price. Microsoft waaaay over-engineered the Surface Book just to be unique yet still don't have the…

You can get third party parts for your MacBook and replace them yourself.

And there are detailed guides from iFixit about how exactly to do it.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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I use Linux exclusively across all of my computers. The biggest problem is touch support - you can get drivers working fine, but the ecosystem is terrible. Open Source applications are an entire generation behind on basic gesture support. The best drawing apps on Linux don't even support pinch-to-zoom. This is a solvable problem that I expect to improve, albeit probably not any time soon, and I'm still incredibly fru…

But Apple hardware have no touch screens. I’m not saying it’s not an issue that Linux has poor touch support- I’m just questioning the validity of the concern; if you’d already decided to get a MacBook then you’ve made your peace with not having touch. Right?

The commenter seems to mean touch pads instead of touch screens.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

I had an X1 Carbon and had so many issues I returned it for a refund after 2 months. I had two replacements and they both had quality control issues. Then the engineer who came to fix it broke the screen, twice! How you ask? Unfortunately with the X1 being so thin the display bezel is a piece of sticky plastic which is a nightmare to align on-site (really should be done in a factory with an alignment machine) and whe…

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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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I still have my 2012 MBP with the nearly-dead battery, but for daily work I'm just using a $200 Samsung Chromebook 3 with Termux. Yes, I can't run everything, and it's quite slow, but as a result I end up spotting performance problems I wouldn't otherwise.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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No love for Hackintosh? I run all of my machines with High Sierra and they are rock solid.

I wonder why apple doesn't allow or support Linux? I would happily buy a Mac pro (trashcan) or a mbp if it had solid Linux support. I think their hardware is awesome. But I have no interest in learning MacOS. The dealbreaker for me is no ctrl key in the corner

I wonder why apple doesn't allow or support Linux?

I wonder if it might be possible somehow under Boot Camp. Or if on a machine as beefy as a Mac Pro if a VM would be good enough. I don't know enough about either to say definitively.

The dealbreaker for me is no ctrl key in the corner

System Preferences > Keyboard > Modifier Keys

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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I use Linux exclusively across all of my computers. The biggest problem is touch support - you can get drivers working fine, but the ecosystem is terrible. Open Source applications are an entire generation behind on basic gesture support. The best drawing apps on Linux don't even support pinch-to-zoom. This is a solvable problem that I expect to improve, albeit probably not any time soon, and I'm still incredibly fru…

But Apple hardware have no touch screens. I’m not saying it’s not an issue that Linux has poor touch support- I’m just questioning the validity of the concern; if you’d already decided to get a MacBook then you’ve made your peace with not having touch. Right?

Um... possibly? I know artists that swear by the iPad pencil. In theory you could keep using that and then run Linux on your main computer. But in practice, I don't actually know if Linux support for iPad management is up to snuff.

I'm sure there's some kind of experimental driver support at least, but it has to actually be good.

You're probably not wrong. If you're looking at a new Macbook maybe there's at least good odds you already don't care about touch? In which case, it's not a bad idea to at least think about Linux, especially since you're already familiar with more than a few of the command line conventions.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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But Apple hardware have no touch screens. I’m not saying it’s not an issue that Linux has poor touch support- I’m just questioning the validity of the concern; if you’d already decided to get a MacBook then you’ve made your peace with not having touch. Right?

The commenter seems to mean touch pads instead of touch screens.

Both actually, now that you mention it :)

But no, touch screens are what I meant. There's also a scenario where someone is moving away from Mac specifically because they're looking at convertibles like a Surface Book. Maybe before this point they were doing drawing on an iPad, or a wacom tablet. Apple had and still has a huge userbase of artists.

Say that you're one of those artists trying to transition to (opinion me) a superior hardware medium for doing artwork, where you have more control over buying hardware brands you think will be reliable or flexible or portable, and where you can get the advantages of running a full-fledged OS on your tablet. You can buy a PC convertible and install Linux on it. But you won't be happy with how Linux runs on those devices (also opinion me).

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Yeah it is horrible how you can't repair or replace anything but it does work so damn well and I have had so much hassle with other laptops that I just thought fuck it and went with the MBP. I had a Surface Book 2 which was one of the worst laptop experiences I have had in the past decade and it was close to the MBP in price. Microsoft waaaay over-engineered the Surface Book just to be unique yet still don't have the…

You can get third party parts for your MacBook and replace them yourself. And there are detailed guides from iFixit about how exactly to do it.

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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Did Apple refuse to hardware swap after the owner of the device performed a fresh install of macOS to see if the issues went away and they didn’t? Hardware defects occur. Get it replaced. If Apple refuses, then make a stink.

He can tweet about errors, and also speak with an Apple rep. There's no practical nor ethical reason for him to stay silent. He didn't sign an NDA when he bought his computer.

Well, he certainly has a right to complain.

But there are good reasons, both ethically and practically, not to let your frustrations get the better of you and rant publicly without first making reasonable efforts to get the problem corrected in the normal way.

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