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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by eropple »

tbrock wrote: post #8
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

The X1 is nice but the T480 is only a little bigger, handles heat a lot better, and has (mine does, at least) about 16 hours of battery life under Fedora.

It's hard to really recommend the X1 (or T480s) as a developer machine, IMO.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by eropple »

otp124 wrote: post #16
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Have you considered System76? I've been interested in their laptops for a while

System76's laptops tend to be heavy and hot for their size. If I had a choice between one and a ThinkPad, it's not really a hard call.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by cutety »

tqkxzugoaupvwqr wrote: post #24
Log1x wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No love for Hackintosh? I run all of my machines with High Sierra and they are rock solid.

How much time did/do you spend reading and fiddling? If I knew setting up a machine (incl. picking hardware parts) is no hassle, I would build myself a desktop. For now I’m holding out for a new Mac mini.

Not the OP, but I had a hackintosh awhile back, and it (obviously) wasn’t as easy as a Ubuntu install, but it wasn’t a complete pain in the ass either. After it was installed, most everything worked as good as it does on my macbook. The only annoying thing I encountered were OS updates, because installing them normally would more than likely break the install.

The OSX86 Project[1] is pretty much all you’ll need for instructions for getting a hackintosh setup running. And if you’re interested in building one from scratch, the OSX86 Project lists compatible hardware so you can know what you’re buying will work.

If you don’t mind having to do a bit of reading and tinkering to get it working, it’s a solid way to be able to use OS X on non-Apple hardware. But, if you’d rather have something you can just install and forget, you’re better off just installing your favorite Linux distro, or buying a Mac.

[1] http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by eropple »

cygned wrote: post #5
dijit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux these days is incredibly stable. As long as you have a laptop that has reasonably high quality (read: open) drivers. Intel graphics, Wi-Fi and a decent SSD/HDD from a known brand is usually enough to have a trouble free personal compute platform. I have a precision 5520 and haven’t had a single Linux/hardware related issue, before that I had a Thinkpad x201s, and an x201 before that- and further back still I ha…

Luckily, Skype is nothing I need to use. However, I would miss applications, namely Sketch. And I’d need to run Windows in a VM. I am also not sure about the build quality. Despite the keyboard, MacBooks are very well designed and built devices.

They are. But so are a few PC lines. For my money, the ThinkPad T480 hits the sweet spot--the keyboard is reminiscent of the older rMBPs (but a little more throw, it seems), with a good-enough touchpad and enough battery life to last basically as long as I could ever see needing it.

(I'm not a fan of the XPS 13 or 15; the keyboard is a little clicky and the touchpad is not good.)

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by sofaofthedamned »

tbrock wrote: post #8
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Fedora is definitely better on my X1. Stock Fedora 28, rawhide kernel, TLP and iuvolt runs better than Windows 10. Best Dev machine I've ever had and the keyboard is superb.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by sofaofthedamned »

whytaka wrote: post #13
tbrock wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

Good for you. There was no spyware in the slightest on my X1.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by sofaofthedamned »

lykr0n wrote: post #17
anbotero wrote: post #15

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It’s been a while since I even have a laptop (just a gaming desktop PC with Windows), but I’m glad people recommend Arch Linux. It certainly was the best I worked with until two years ago, for several years. Sure, it’s got its quirks, but they help you a lot to learn new stuff, and after that, it’s much easier to set it up again in case you needed (I only needed it once every two years or so).

Arch is great. If not the wiki, the AUR and Trizen. Almost every piece of software I would want a few commands away. It's also surprisingly stable.

I love Fedora but the Arch wiki is the best authoritative source of fixes ever.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by mikec3010 »

Log1x wrote: post #11
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

No love for Hackintosh? I run all of my machines with High Sierra and they are rock solid.

I wonder why apple doesn't allow or support Linux? I would happily buy a Mac pro (trashcan) or a mbp if it had solid Linux support. I think their hardware is awesome. But I have no interest in learning MacOS. The dealbreaker for me is no ctrl key in the corner

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by viraptor »

whytaka wrote: post #13
tbrock wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

Almost every larger company these days has done something bad like that. Lenovo had superfish, HP had a keylogger, Dell had its own superfish, Acer still installs search toolbars and browser hijackers, depending on how far back you want to go Sony had the BMG rootkit and a camera backdoor, ... Who are you going to get your laptop from now of you ignore all of those - especially if you're going to reinstall your OS immediately anyway?

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by AsyncAwait »

tbrock wrote: post #8
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

I'd get a Dell XPS instead, but agree with Arch Linux or Fedora.
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