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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by cygned »

lykr0n wrote: post #18
cygned wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please elaborate. Why using Fedora when I could go with CentOS?

CentOS is an option, but the hardware will perform better under Fedora due to a newer kernel build to support newer hardware. Feature wise, the only difference you really need to know is that Fedora ditched Yum and switched to DNF. Same command structure, and you can still install yum. fun fact. Fedora is what RedHat uses to test and flesh out all the fancy features coming in CentOS 8 & RHEL 8. I think Fedora 25 or 2…

> switched to DNF

Oh I didn’t know that. Will look into that!

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by wvh »

tbrock wrote: post #8
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

My advice as well – I'm running Arch Linux on a ThinkPad. Debian (unstable) or a recent Ubuntu version might work pretty well too. CentOS follows RedHat Enterprise Linux and has way too old software for modern desktop use (unless they have a branch hidden somewhere I'm not aware of).

Running old Linux versions on new laptops is going to be a frustrating experience; ideally all the device drivers you need are mainlined into the kernel of your distribution so you won't have to mess with those yourself.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by some_account »

cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Highly recommend Matebook X Pro with Manjaro Linux, pure awesomeness.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by tqkxzugoaupvwqr »

Log1x wrote: post #11
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

No love for Hackintosh? I run all of my machines with High Sierra and they are rock solid.

How much time did/do you spend reading and fiddling? If I knew setting up a machine (incl. picking hardware parts) is no hassle, I would build myself a desktop. For now I’m holding out for a new Mac mini.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by knaik94 »

whytaka wrote: post #13
tbrock wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

It's the difference between recommending the consumer line and business line, they are not related technically. Lenovo's consumer line is Ideapad, their business line is Thinkpad. If they tried something similar on a business line, they would go bankrupt because they would never get another contract again. It would fall under Industrial Espionage which is illegal. That's why governments and large corporations still buy Thinkpad.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by cygned »

some_account wrote: post #23
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Highly recommend Matebook X Pro with Manjaro Linux, pure awesomeness.

The Matebook X Pro indeed looks good.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by agumonkey »

whytaka wrote: post #13
tbrock wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

If you're tech saavy it's a bit less important. Scamming average consumers is sad, but ThinkPads to me are IBM, not Lenovo, so they have different boxes in my mind. The hardware is good, linux runs nice on it. Case closed.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by satysin »

cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

No issues with my 2018 15" MBP. Runs perfect, solid battery life, cool and quiet. No kernel panics or any other crashes in 3 weeks of owning it.

Edit: Should mention I have only restarted it two or three times in those 3 weeks so it has had plenty of time to crash

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by dijit »

danShumway wrote: post #9
dijit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux these days is incredibly stable. As long as you have a laptop that has reasonably high quality (read: open) drivers. Intel graphics, Wi-Fi and a decent SSD/HDD from a known brand is usually enough to have a trouble free personal compute platform. I have a precision 5520 and haven’t had a single Linux/hardware related issue, before that I had a Thinkpad x201s, and an x201 before that- and further back still I ha…

I use Linux exclusively across all of my computers. The biggest problem is touch support - you can get drivers working fine, but the ecosystem is terrible. Open Source applications are an entire generation behind on basic gesture support. The best drawing apps on Linux don't even support pinch-to-zoom. This is a solvable problem that I expect to improve, albeit probably not any time soon, and I'm still incredibly fru…

But Apple hardware have no touch screens. I’m not saying it’s not an issue that Linux has poor touch support- I’m just questioning the validity of the concern; if you’d already decided to get a MacBook then you’ve made your peace with not having touch. Right?

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by cygned »

satysin wrote: post #28
cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

No issues with my 2018 15" MBP. Runs perfect, solid battery life, cool and quiet. No kernel panics or any other crashes in 3 weeks of owning it. Edit: Should mention I have only restarted it two or three times in those 3 weeks so it has had plenty of time to crash

Did you experience the sound issues?
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