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The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

No love for Hackintosh? I run all of my machines with High Sierra and they are rock solid.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Please elaborate. Why using Fedora when I could go with CentOS?

Newer drivers. They are the same basic OS but it’s not a server so you actually care about the newness of the drivers and other client software.

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Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware.

I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

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Please elaborate. Why using Fedora when I could go with CentOS?

Newer drivers. They are the same basic OS but it’s not a server so you actually care about the newness of the drivers and other client software.

I expected that. I run it in a VM and on the server and there this is obviously not that much of a challenge. Thanks for that input.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

It’s been a while since I even have a laptop (just a gaming desktop PC with Windows), but I’m glad people recommend Arch Linux.

It certainly was the best I worked with until two years ago, for several years. Sure, it’s got its quirks, but they help you a lot to learn new stuff, and after that, it’s much easier to set it up again in case you needed (I only needed it once every two years or so).

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Have you considered System76? I've been interested in their laptops for a while

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

It’s been a while since I even have a laptop (just a gaming desktop PC with Windows), but I’m glad people recommend Arch Linux. It certainly was the best I worked with until two years ago, for several years. Sure, it’s got its quirks, but they help you a lot to learn new stuff, and after that, it’s much easier to set it up again in case you needed (I only needed it once every two years or so).

Arch is great. If not the wiki, the AUR and Trizen. Almost every piece of software I would want a few commands away.

It's also surprisingly stable.

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Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

Please elaborate. Why using Fedora when I could go with CentOS?

CentOS is an option, but the hardware will perform better under Fedora due to a newer kernel build to support newer hardware. Feature wise, the only difference you really need to know is that Fedora ditched Yum and switched to DNF. Same command structure, and you can still install yum.

fun fact. Fedora is what RedHat uses to test and flesh out all the fancy features coming in CentOS 8 & RHEL 8. I think Fedora 25 or 26 is what those OSs are being build from.

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Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Linux these days is incredibly stable. As long as you have a laptop that has reasonably high quality (read: open) drivers. Intel graphics, Wi-Fi and a decent SSD/HDD from a known brand is usually enough to have a trouble free personal compute platform. I have a precision 5520 and haven’t had a single Linux/hardware related issue, before that I had a Thinkpad x201s, and an x201 before that- and further back still I ha…

> Linux these days is incredibly stable

I can’t subscribe to that. It’s ok, but it still requires permanent hand holding. Stuff randomly breaks with updates, for example since the last update I can’t scan any more. I also can’t print any more on my networked printer that’s connected to my mac server.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Get a ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th gen with Arch Linux or Fedora. Forget CentOS.

It’s been a while since I even have a laptop (just a gaming desktop PC with Windows), but I’m glad people recommend Arch Linux. It certainly was the best I worked with until two years ago, for several years. Sure, it’s got its quirks, but they help you a lot to learn new stuff, and after that, it’s much easier to set it up again in case you needed (I only needed it once every two years or so).

I can't ever go back to CentOS/RHEL or Debian/Ubuntu for my personal machine after having seen the flexibility that Arch provides.

Don't get me wrong, technically you can make Ubuntu just as flexible but you have to try to configure it that way. All the conveniences they brought into these distros for simple package management actually sets you up for failure when you are doing larger upgrades. Not to mention that the packages in their repos are often out of date.

I never had my Arch box fail me across upgrades, allowing me to actually be current in the code I run.

It's a healthy middle between Gentoo and CentOS if you don't want to build it all from source but yet still be current.

Even opkg and some IPAs are better than the package manager experience I had with apt-get or yum/dnf.

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