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Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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gits1225 wrote: post #104
sanderjd wrote: post #102

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I'm honestly curious how you envision that affiliate links might create the wrong incentives. There are other ways to make money, but the ones I can think of seem much worse. Advertising sucks and clearly has more wrong incentive problems. Donations are less predictable and disconnected from the usefulness of the site. It seems to me that getting a small cut of "hey this book does look useful, I think I'll buy it!" i…

Ads don't suck. Bad ads suck. I love good ads. I used to wait for ads to appear on my Garena client back in the days when I played DOTA because they were so cool (and useful). If I know my audience, I don't have to compromise privacy to show useful ads clean and neat either (watertight curation is applied here as well). Good ads are relevant. On amazon affiliates: The iron rule of nature is: You get what you reward f…

I don't get your point about affiliate links at all. What better ad is there than a link to a recommended book itself? I'd much rather see you get a small portion of the purchase price of a book you recommended to me than look at your ads, curated or not.

But it's your site! I hope you do find success with the ad strategy, your site seems useful, and I hope it remains worth your time.

Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by gits1225 »

sanderjd wrote: post #111
gits1225 wrote: post #104

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Ads don't suck. Bad ads suck. I love good ads. I used to wait for ads to appear on my Garena client back in the days when I played DOTA because they were so cool (and useful). If I know my audience, I don't have to compromise privacy to show useful ads clean and neat either (watertight curation is applied here as well). Good ads are relevant. On amazon affiliates: The iron rule of nature is: You get what you reward f…

I don't get your point about affiliate links at all . What better ad is there than a link to a recommended book itself? I'd much rather see you get a small portion of the purchase price of a book you recommended to me than look at your ads, curated or not. But it's your site! I hope you do find success with the ad strategy, your site seems useful, and I hope it remains worth your time.

This comment puts it well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17789161.

Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by gits1225 »

eric24234 wrote: post #105

Thanks so much for implementing this idea. Very nice idea. Whenever i want to watch a movie its hard to find whats best with imdb or google search because its so generalized. But if a movie is liked by John Carmack, Michael Nielsen, Steve Yegee or Elon Musk then the chance of me liking is really great.

That's the idea. Glad you liked it : )

Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by sanderjd »

gits1225 wrote: post #112
sanderjd wrote: post #111

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I don't get your point about affiliate links at all . What better ad is there than a link to a recommended book itself? I'd much rather see you get a small portion of the purchase price of a book you recommended to me than look at your ads, curated or not. But it's your site! I hope you do find success with the ad strategy, your site seems useful, and I hope it remains worth your time.

This comment puts it well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17789161 .

You have the same incentive to prioritize ads over recommendations. If I trust you to keep ads clearly separated, I also trust you to keep recommendations undiluted.

Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by gits1225 »

sanderjd wrote: post #114
gits1225 wrote: post #112

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This comment puts it well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17789161 .

You have the same incentive to prioritize ads over recommendations. If I trust you to keep ads clearly separated, I also trust you to keep recommendations undiluted.

> You have the same incentive to prioritize ads over recommendations.

No.

> If I trust you to keep ads clearly separated, I also trust you to keep recommendations undiluted.

True. I am the one curator at the moment. I'll open this so that others can curate / recommend. I require that dilution of intention doesn't happen then. DNA is important.

Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by gits1225 »

setr wrote: post #108
lolptdr wrote: post #88

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Great idea. Crowdsourcing is good but averaging out crowdsources of crowdsources is a better way to understand the general sentiment of the population.

I think the problem is that you don’t actually want the general sentiment of the population: it most likely leads to things you’ll accept, but not actually want (ie movies you’re lukewarm on). I think what recsys really should be trying to target is finding the group most similar to your tastes, and then picking based on the outliers of that group. The goal being to find something within your tastes, but far enough f…

This.

I'll be sourcing recommendations from the silent majority of experts as well (https://prog21.dadgum.com/143.html).

Reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17784551.

Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by [deleted] »

gits1225 wrote: post #115
sanderjd wrote: post #114

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You have the same incentive to prioritize ads over recommendations. If I trust you to keep ads clearly separated, I also trust you to keep recommendations undiluted.

> You have the same incentive to prioritize ads over recommendations. No. > If I trust you to keep ads clearly separated, I also trust you to keep recommendations undiluted. True. I am the one curator at the moment. I'll open this so that others can curate / recommend. I require that dilution of intention doesn't happen then. DNA is important.

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Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by setr »

gits1225 wrote: post #116
setr wrote: post #108

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I think the problem is that you don’t actually want the general sentiment of the population: it most likely leads to things you’ll accept, but not actually want (ie movies you’re lukewarm on). I think what recsys really should be trying to target is finding the group most similar to your tastes, and then picking based on the outliers of that group. The goal being to find something within your tastes, but far enough f…

This. I'll be sourcing recommendations from the silent majority of experts as well ( https://prog21.dadgum.com/143.html ). Reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17784551 .

Im not sure I understand how you intend to do that: the silence problem is that the majority of experts don’t post their recommendations, right? Even if you have their names from linus, how will you get their recs

Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by gits1225 »

setr wrote: post #118
gits1225 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I'll be sourcing recommendations from the silent majority of experts as well ( https://prog21.dadgum.com/143.html ). Reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17784551 .

Im not sure I understand how you intend to do that: the silence problem is that the majority of experts don’t post their recommendations, right? Even if you have their names from linus, how will you get their recs

Email is the first step. I'll have to find another way if that doesn't work :D

OT: I checked your profile but couldn't find an email to contact you. It'd be cool if I can shoot an email once in a while to brainstorm.

Re: Show HN: Find recommendations from good people

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Post by 4ad »

setr wrote: post #109
4ad wrote: post #107

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>> No to amazon affiliates. > Thanks you! This shows character and actual, proper altruistic intentions. I hate ads and every other scheme to extort money from people, but I have no problem with affiliate links and do not understand why would someone have a problem with them. Could you, or someone else who thinks like this explain what problem you have with affiliate links? Thanks.

It tosses in the incentive to start recommending things based on how valuable the affiliate link would be,diluting the value of the recommendations

As a general rule, I steer away from review sites, and instead I look for professionals using the product. For example I follow some photographers, carpenters, etc, and see what equipment they use for themselves and why they use it. They are not reviewing products, they are using them and posting a list of products for my convenience.

If I decide to buy the same equipment, I see nothing wrong using their affiliate links.

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