Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
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Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
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Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#2I read more about the spider - it only exists in this one location in Sweden, Kungsträdgårdens subway station. Curious it did not spread to the next stop on the same line...
Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#3I read more about the spider - it only exists in this one location in Sweden, Kungsträdgårdens subway station. Curious it did not spread to the next stop on the same line...
the next stop is the central station, and it's possible that there's too much traffice -> more service/cleaning there. The kungsträdgården station isn't at all active since it's just some strange one-station off-shot in the south-ish direction and there are no transfers there. Might as well get off at central station.
Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#4I read more about the spider - it only exists in this one location in Sweden, Kungsträdgårdens subway station. Curious it did not spread to the next stop on the same line...
the next stop is the central station, and it's possible that there's too much traffice -> more service/cleaning there. The kungsträdgården station isn't at all active since it's just some strange one-station off-shot in the south-ish direction and there are no transfers there. Might as well get off at central station.
That will probably change in the next few years though, as they are planning to extend the blue line from Kungsträdgården out to Nacka. Central will still be Where most people hop off no doubt, but I’d expect traffic at Kungsträdgården to pick up considerable as theres plenty of commuters living south and south east, that work in the offices around there.
Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#5I read more about the spider - it only exists in this one location in Sweden, Kungsträdgårdens subway station. Curious it did not spread to the next stop on the same line...
Spiders often eat other spider species, blocking them to spread to a previously colonized area.
Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#6Ok, but where are the people in the photos?
Even a google image search reveals photos much like on altas obscura: vast tastefully designed cavernous space dotted with but a few token humans.
It seems suspiciously clean and well maintained compared to NYC metro. Floors polished, no screaming lunatics, no cracked, floors, walls, ceilings. I am willing to bet it doesn't even smell like pee and vomit? Where are the masses?
Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#7Ok, but where are the people in the photos? Even a google image search reveals photos much like on altas obscura: vast tastefully designed cavernous space dotted with but a few token humans. It seems suspiciously clean and well maintained compared to NYC metro. Floors polished, no screaming lunatics, no cracked, floors, walls, ceilings. I am willing to bet it doesn't even smell like pee and vomit? Where are the masse…
Those problems don't plague most other metros of the same vintage (e.g. Berlin, Paris, Moscow, St Petersburg, Tokyo, Osaka...) even though homeless people and vomit are prevalent there too.
I don't know why NYC and BART have to have those issues.
Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#8Ok, but where are the people in the photos? Even a google image search reveals photos much like on altas obscura: vast tastefully designed cavernous space dotted with but a few token humans. It seems suspiciously clean and well maintained compared to NYC metro. Floors polished, no screaming lunatics, no cracked, floors, walls, ceilings. I am willing to bet it doesn't even smell like pee and vomit? Where are the masse…
I’ve been at the station in the article during rush hour. It was quite packed with people but still extremely clean and thoroughly pleasant.
In my admittedly limited experience the Swedes are really good at shared public spaces.
Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#9Ok, but where are the people in the photos? Even a google image search reveals photos much like on altas obscura: vast tastefully designed cavernous space dotted with but a few token humans. It seems suspiciously clean and well maintained compared to NYC metro. Floors polished, no screaming lunatics, no cracked, floors, walls, ceilings. I am willing to bet it doesn't even smell like pee and vomit? Where are the masse…
Those problems don't plague most other metros of the same vintage (e.g. Berlin, Paris, Moscow, St Petersburg, Tokyo, Osaka...) even though homeless people and vomit are prevalent there too. I don't know why NYC and BART have to have those issues.
Because half the American population supports a party that thinks public spending should be banned.
So you end up with the classic 'privatise the profits, socialise the costs' setup.
I don't understand why people can't see that some public spending is an economic force multiplier.
I mean US infrastructure is notoriously bad for a developed economy, you have thousands of bridges that need massive remedial work to make them safe by modern standards.
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/15/us/structural-deficient-b...
Re: Stockholm’s deepest subway station is also an ecological wonder
#10Ok, but where are the people in the photos? Even a google image search reveals photos much like on altas obscura: vast tastefully designed cavernous space dotted with but a few token humans. It seems suspiciously clean and well maintained compared to NYC metro. Floors polished, no screaming lunatics, no cracked, floors, walls, ceilings. I am willing to bet it doesn't even smell like pee and vomit? Where are the masse…
This feels like a troll comment, in that it asks a back-handed question, to highlight the shortcomings of a comparable example, more than the question voices honest curiosity regarding the question as it may be superficially posed. Possibly in an effort to lead the loaded question down a negative path, such that responses will lend voice to an opinion one might read between the lines.
But first and foremost, no one from New York calls it “NYC Metro.” It’s The Subway, and it’s operated by the MTA. So, already your comment has the ring of someone who doesn’t live in New York. And to go one deeper, The Subway hasn’t smelled like that since the mid 1990’s. Most of the tourist stations “Disney-fied” by Giuliani get power washed every single night, after midnight, during the gravyard shift, to eliminate the smells of humanity.
It’s still very old, very dirty, very inefficient, slow, crowded, and peppered with tourists, homeless people, pickpockets and weirdos all at once.
New York has more going on than many other cities, and is as dense as it is diverse, and it’s been that way for at least 100 years (or at least the subway has), and that’s a somewhat conservative time frame, but
Other cities aren’t like that, and some of it is due to strict policing. Not always though. Some of it has to do with climate, sunlight and weather, or in social terms, the implicit understanding of the expectation of one’s peers.
In lively cities, when transplanted people lose a sense of expected behavior among strangers, behavior loosens up. Some cities have a specific reputation as being a destination for the specific reason to either lose or find one’s sense of self. New York is one of those places.