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Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Contemporary programmer: spends a whole weekend tweaking CSS parameters, asking web forums for LaTeX templates, finding a cool fresh font pairing on Google Fonts. 1980s programmer: sits down at the typewriter and bangs out a fixed width table, finishes with a signature.

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Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Nearly 24 years with a single employer. How many programmers can claim that these days?

None since they all became managers after year 5 :)

Well, excluding the ones who were kicked out and replaced by younger folks, cheaper and less caring about working conditions.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Poor guy was trying to find a new job at 54. He had been out of work for a month. Wasn't easy then, isn't easy now. As to the discussion about 1 page v. multi-page c.v.'s: a c.v. is ADVERTISING. If you get the interview, you bring along a more comprehensive document in which you can go into detail about subject areas which may be relevant but don't merit inclusion on a one-pager. As to his height: he worked on B-29's…

I assume he was applying for security cleared jobs with this CV

Sometimes you enter that information on your CV to demonstrate responsibility and/or trust rather than because you're specifically after another equivalent position

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Contemporary programmer: spends a whole weekend tweaking CSS parameters, asking web forums for LaTeX templates, finding a cool fresh font pairing on Google Fonts. 1980s programmer: sits down at the typewriter and bangs out a fixed width table, finishes with a signature.

Real 1980s programmer: sits down at IBM 3278 mainframe terminal, edits resume into text file containing DCF/Script markup. Prints mailing copies on IBM 3800 laser printer using typewriter font, hoping operations staff running printer doesn't notice (unlikely considering speed printer runs at). --signed, real 1980s programmer (also 1970s programmer, 1990s programmer, 2000s programmer, 2010s programmer) current resume…

Around that time I think I did mine as a text file using ed on a PDP 11.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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I'm baby-sitting Java devs as "senior" atm. They don't know much, but what little they know they're defending with fervor, like "REST", Spring crap, and rubbish pseudo-modularization using "microservices". Worst, taking random architecture astronaut blog posts as dogma, incapable of reflecting whether something makes sense for a given task ("SQL is too old-school and low-level (!)"). Makes you really think about what…

No phrase terrifies me so much as 'Entity Framework'.

Then better don't take a look at "Spring data" + crud apps build on top of it - as pointless a framework as it gets. Allows you to churn out a CRUD app within the time bounds of an "agile" sub task of a day or less, to then degenerate into a typical inefficient Spring magic trial-and-error project to fix for months to come.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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you expect a webdev to know the difference between the current standard and its next version thats hardly used at the moment? aren't you expecting a little bit too much? Don't get me wrong, its great if you do... but knowing about upcoming encryption standards is imo something a security engineer should be fluent in, not a web developer.

Is it reasonable to expect a web developer to be able to configure nginx? To be honest, I guess maybe not. But the person in question was maintaining how https slowed all sites down and so should be avoided. When I questioned him about the new handshaking in TLS1.3, it became evident he didn’t know what I was referring to.

DevOps engineer will configure docker\tls\nginx and all that stuff

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you expect a webdev to know the difference between the current standard and its next version thats hardly used at the moment? aren't you expecting a little bit too much? Don't get me wrong, its great if you do... but knowing about upcoming encryption standards is imo something a security engineer should be fluent in, not a web developer.

Is it reasonable to expect a web developer to be able to configure nginx? To be honest, I guess maybe not. But the person in question was maintaining how https slowed all sites down and so should be avoided. When I questioned him about the new handshaking in TLS1.3, it became evident he didn’t know what I was referring to.

Compared to the habit of including huge gobs of javascript and unoptimised images on "modern" web sites the impact of https is nugatory.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you expect a webdev to know the difference between the current standard and its next version thats hardly used at the moment? aren't you expecting a little bit too much? Don't get me wrong, its great if you do... but knowing about upcoming encryption standards is imo something a security engineer should be fluent in, not a web developer.

Is it reasonable to expect a web developer to be able to configure nginx? To be honest, I guess maybe not. But the person in question was maintaining how https slowed all sites down and so should be avoided. When I questioned him about the new handshaking in TLS1.3, it became evident he didn’t know what I was referring to.

If you can't apt-get install nginx and copy a basic configuration from the internet, I have bad news for you.

Tuning performance and setting up logging is another matter.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Contemporary programmer: spends a whole weekend tweaking CSS parameters, asking web forums for LaTeX templates, finding a cool fresh font pairing on Google Fonts. 1980s programmer: sits down at the typewriter and bangs out a fixed width table, finishes with a signature.

Real 1980s programmer: sits down at IBM 3278 mainframe terminal, edits resume into text file containing DCF/Script markup. Prints mailing copies on IBM 3800 laser printer using typewriter font, hoping operations staff running printer doesn't notice (unlikely considering speed printer runs at). --signed, real 1980s programmer (also 1970s programmer, 1990s programmer, 2000s programmer, 2010s programmer) current resume…

just in case you don't know, that resumee can't be accessed without a linkedin account.

it generally doesn't matter, because most HR employees probably have one where you're from.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Your dad was an American hero, please thank him for all his hard work on my behalf. Men like him built this country by living their lives and raising their children. I'm sure he wasn't perfect, but he's still your dad and I'm sorry you've moved him to a home. Please take good care of him.
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