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Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by modzu »

Sharlin wrote: post #86
TuringNYC wrote: post #75

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Could you explain further? Are there phases of dream where one can or cannot read? I heard an old tale (pre-internet days) where dreaming happens in a different part of the brain than reading, so supposedly it isnt possible to read in a dream and thus being able to read is a litmus test of whether you're dreaming or not....but i often read during dreams so I couldnt figure it out. Searching the internet (present day)…

IME, often the text is gibberish, or at least nonsense semantically, and/or changes as you move your eyes, especially if you look away for a moment. The same applies to eg. clocks. Details never seem to be very stable in the dream world.

i've found that to be the case for anything (not just text) in normal dreams; but one of the most surprising characteristics of lucid dreaming ive experienced is the stability -- for example in one dream i looked at a persian rug up close and could see the different colored fibres of the fabric. that said, things can certainly change dramatically and rapidly (...and now im flying!)

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by apo »

bencollier49 wrote: post #91
scrollaway wrote: post #45

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I used to lucid dream pretty naturally, then stopped because I started getting very regular sleep paralysis. Nowadays when I do end up lucid dreaming (most often by accident) I notice a fairly significant drop in sleep quality. Even worse, I sometimes lucid dream, then "awaken" into another dream where I'm not lucid and those experiences really fuck with me. On a different note I'd love to get a high quality sleep-tr…

Learning to lucid dream is basically giving yourself a sleep disorder on purpose. Having done this deliberately in the past and had some fairly wacky side-effects, I think it's worth people considering the negatives if they style trying to induce lucidity.

Having done this deliberately in the past and had some fairly wacky side-effects

Such as?

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by Memosyne »

modzu wrote: post #98
Memosyne wrote: post #96

I wonder if the induction of lucid dreams could become a commercial endeavor? Viewing it as an alternative to technological virtual reality, people would start buying products which induce dreams instead. Companies would subsequently market and patent items which enhance visual experiences in dreams. The future is daunting.

u mean like sleepwithremee.com? "the future is already here. it just isn't evenly distributed"

From their reviews, it seems like they aren't very successful in inducing lucid dreams.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by clankfan »

bencollier49 wrote: post #91
scrollaway wrote: post #45

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I used to lucid dream pretty naturally, then stopped because I started getting very regular sleep paralysis. Nowadays when I do end up lucid dreaming (most often by accident) I notice a fairly significant drop in sleep quality. Even worse, I sometimes lucid dream, then "awaken" into another dream where I'm not lucid and those experiences really fuck with me. On a different note I'd love to get a high quality sleep-tr…

Learning to lucid dream is basically giving yourself a sleep disorder on purpose. Having done this deliberately in the past and had some fairly wacky side-effects, I think it's worth people considering the negatives if they style trying to induce lucidity.

What side-effects did you experience?

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by harshulpandav »

Flying/weightlessness has been my all-time-favorite lucid dream.

I have been a lucid dreamer since a long time. It definitely is an amazing thing. I have never really got tempted to wear VR headsets or such devices. I can achieve this state just before I have fallen asleep completely. I get a stronger control over dreams usually in the morning when I have mentally woke up but have not opened my eyes yet.

1. I can fly, hover, experience 0 G. Helps me save the money which I might have spent in doing it in real life.

2. I can solve problems. Programming problems or other real world problems.

3. I meet people whom I may not get a chance to meet with in real life.

4. I can "continue" a dream after waking up and going back to bed.

The best thing about this ability is that you have complete control on your dream. You are aware that you are dreaming. You can direct the dream to go whereever and however you want.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by [deleted] »

GW150914 wrote: post #80
modzu wrote: post #77

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you should read hackernews during your next lucid dream and bring us back some of the topics

Reading is weird during dreams, lucid or otherwise. I recently had a very odd dream in which I thought I was awake, but lying in bed with my eyes closed. I was amazed that I could still see! I picked up a piece of clear plastic package and opened my eyes, and it was totally blank. Then, I closed my eyes, still able to see, and suddenly the packaging was covered with writing in all kinds of fonts, points, and colors.…

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Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by scrollaway »

knicholes wrote: post #95
ModernMech wrote: post #73

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> I started getting very regular sleep paralysis. I do not blame you. I've experienced sleep paralysis more than once, and it is not pleasant at all. I remember trying to scream at the top of my lungs in my head for... I don't know how long but my perception of it was that it was for hours on end. Then all of a sudden something broke through, and I woke my wife up with the loudest scream she's ever heard out of anyon…

Coming from a religious background, I believed that I was being possessed to explain the lack of control over my body. I even hallucinated an "evil" "form" coming towards me before my body locked up and I felt tingles. So ~weird~ terrifying being able to scream without your body doing anything.

Sleep paralysis is mortifying if you don't know what you're dealing with. I can completely understand how that's been the source of many people believing in possessions over the centuries.

Most of my paralysis episodes didn't involve the "evil presence" people often talk about. That is, until a recent one less than a year ago, where I woke up with a giant "invisible" spider on my chest

It's terrifying to be in this state of mind where you know what's happening, but you also really, really feel that presence. I wonder if this is similar to what schizophrenic patients feel.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by rebuilder »

bloomthrowaway wrote: post #23

Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

I guess the experience is agreeable to you? I have lucid dreams sometimes, and something about it is very unsettling to me. I sometimes have non-lucid nightmares where I can feel myself losing my mind, with uncontrollable visual hallucinations and a sense of falling apart mentally. I also have nightmares where I wake up from a dream, only to realize I'm still dreaming, over and over again. Somehow the lucid dreams I have feel similar to this, there's a strong sense of being at risk of going mad. Maybe it's that I haven't trained for it, but I don't particularly feel like I want to learn to have more of those.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by travbrack »

apo wrote: post #102
bencollier49 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Learning to lucid dream is basically giving yourself a sleep disorder on purpose. Having done this deliberately in the past and had some fairly wacky side-effects, I think it's worth people considering the negatives if they style trying to induce lucidity.

Having done this deliberately in the past and had some fairly wacky side-effects Such as?

I used to read lucid dreaming forums. A lot of people complain that their sleep becomes less restful, the more they lucid dream. Also that it becomes impossible to have a night without lucid dreams once you get enough experience, so you can't catch a break.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by nautilus12 »

bloomthrowaway wrote: post #23

Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

Ive noticed that my lucid dreams correlate very heavily with sleep paralysis and while lucid dreaming is fun the risk of sleep paralysis, which is like my worst nightmare is almost too great. I have a technique for getting out of sleep paralysis where I kind of metnally think of jiggling my head on my neck very rapidly but sometimes i keep falling back into paralysis so the whole experience is really uncomfortable. As a result I think when i lucid dream i get kind of amped up and wake myself up or ill remain in the dream but the quality is really low, eventually I realize im just laying awake with my eyes closed for many hours and get horrible sleep. Any tips on not waking yourself up specifically? Am i lucid dreaming in the wrong stage of sleep or something?
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