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Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

in one of my first lucid dreams i started reading a book and then thought to myself, "hang on, no way this is a dream if i can read a book!", and then fell back into regular dream state haha

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

I used to lucid dream pretty naturally, then stopped because I started getting very regular sleep paralysis. Nowadays when I do end up lucid dreaming (most often by accident) I notice a fairly significant drop in sleep quality. Even worse, I sometimes lucid dream, then "awaken" into another dream where I'm not lucid and those experiences really fuck with me. On a different note I'd love to get a high quality sleep-tr…

> I started getting very regular sleep paralysis.

I do not blame you. I've experienced sleep paralysis more than once, and it is not pleasant at all. I remember trying to scream at the top of my lungs in my head for... I don't know how long but my perception of it was that it was for hours on end. Then all of a sudden something broke through, and I woke my wife up with the loudest scream she's ever heard out of anyone.

Took a while for me to sleep again after that.

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Tangentially related, but if anything "magical" exists, lucid dreaming is the way to it. Egyptians were supposedly obsessed with being lucid during dreams so they don't "lose" themselves in the afterlife. Seems quite logical, since you essentially lose track of yourself during a dream.

Indeed. The Tibetans claim that this is all a dream, and that the only way to confirm this for yourself is to wake up. Until then, because all of the internal dynamics follow rather precise and well-defined laws (i.e., correlations), it is easy to be fooled into thinking that it is real and external. In actuality, it is all made of "your" mind, in the same way that a dream environment is made of "your" mind. "Your" i…

Who did the people who wrote that up think they were talking to?

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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post #72

Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

in one of my first lucid dreams i started reading a book and then thought to myself, "hang on, no way this is a dream if i can read a book!", and then fell back into regular dream state haha

Could you explain further? Are there phases of dream where one can or cannot read?

I heard an old tale (pre-internet days) where dreaming happens in a different part of the brain than reading, so supposedly it isnt possible to read in a dream and thus being able to read is a litmus test of whether you're dreaming or not....but i often read during dreams so I couldnt figure it out.

Searching the internet (present day) reveals a spectrum of opinions on whether one can or cannot read during dreams (and thus whether it can be used as a litmus test for reality.) Do you know if there is a definitive opinion on this?

I suppose I can always use a totem.

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I've lucid dreamed a few times, and every time I am able to summon a "debug menu". Sort of a drop-down menu with all of the dream parameters. I can never think of anything more interesting to try than Physics>Gravity>moon. I turned off collisions once, and spent like twenty minutes just putting my hands through walls and giggling.

It's weirdly common in my dreams to have low gravity or to have the ability to swim through the air. I'm pretty sure my brain is recognizing that gravity isn't applying to me in the way it should be if I were standing up (because I'm actually laying down in a bed), and my brain is just confabulating an explanation for it. So that makes me wonder whether that circumstance in your lucid dream (and choices in lucid dreams in general) is really happening because of your free choice, and whether the belief that you decided for that to happen is just part of your brain confabulating an explanation. I assume it and probably most decisions are a mix of both.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

you should read hackernews during your next lucid dream and bring us back some of the topics

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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in one of my first lucid dreams i started reading a book and then thought to myself, "hang on, no way this is a dream if i can read a book!", and then fell back into regular dream state haha

Could you explain further? Are there phases of dream where one can or cannot read? I heard an old tale (pre-internet days) where dreaming happens in a different part of the brain than reading, so supposedly it isnt possible to read in a dream and thus being able to read is a litmus test of whether you're dreaming or not....but i often read during dreams so I couldnt figure it out. Searching the internet (present day)…

yes i'd heard the same thing -- that's actually what went through my head (in my lucid state) and convinced my dreaming brain that i was not dreaming (even though i was)! its interesting, the experience itself seemed utterly normal and convincing.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in one of my first lucid dreams i started reading a book and then thought to myself, "hang on, no way this is a dream if i can read a book!", and then fell back into regular dream state haha

Could you explain further? Are there phases of dream where one can or cannot read? I heard an old tale (pre-internet days) where dreaming happens in a different part of the brain than reading, so supposedly it isnt possible to read in a dream and thus being able to read is a litmus test of whether you're dreaming or not....but i often read during dreams so I couldnt figure it out. Searching the internet (present day)…

i'll also add that just "attempting" a litmus test can be a sufficient trigger for a lucid state. i'd heard about "flipping the light switch" from the film waking life. i tried it in a dream and the switch worked fine, but it was the fact that i was questioning whether i was in a dream in the first place that lead me to realize i was dreaming nevertheless (i think thats what the top comment is getting at -- strengthening these habits so that you do things like check light switches not because if they fail you know you're in a dream, but to put your mind into a state where you're always questioning whether you are awake. then you can spot the clues

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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post #77

Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

you should read hackernews during your next lucid dream and bring us back some of the topics

Reading is weird during dreams, lucid or otherwise. I recently had a very odd dream in which I thought I was awake, but lying in bed with my eyes closed. I was amazed that I could still see! I picked up a piece of clear plastic package and opened my eyes, and it was totally blank. Then, I closed my eyes, still able to see, and suddenly the packaging was covered with writing in all kinds of fonts, points, and colors. Total... gibberish. I thought some of it was sort of funny, so I reached out for my dictaphone (nowhere close in reality, but right there in a dream) and was going to record some of these whacky lines. The problem was that I could hear my radio, and I knew I’d be recording that too, so I reached out to turn it off. Nothing, still on. I kept doing that until I woke up, realized my radio was on as an alarm, there was no dictaphone, no plastic, nothing.

Very odd experience, but it fits with my memories of trying to read in dreams. The words are either nonsense, mad-libs, or they make sense, but change the moment your attention shifts.

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