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Re: Katie's New Face

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> people who can't think for themselves. It's literally word for word from the comment.

yes, if you cut it in half. Not dishonest at all

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you may not be aware of what "!=" means. They are saying that "people who can't think for themselves" -- the original argument -- are not the same as "people who don't think just like you" -- which is their rebuttal.

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Especially in the US, deer are extremely destructive to any environment they appear in, with herds numbering hundreds of thousands and eating every crop they happen upon. They were allowed to grow that much, partially because we have killed their natural predators, but also because hunting them has been aggressively frowned upon for decades now. So any suggestion of culling the herds is immediately and fiercely met w…

don't you have professional huntsmen/forester/whatever name over there? i don't see reason why general public should be taking care of this with guns

It's better to take payment for a license granting the privilege of doing a job, than to go through the rigamarole of hiring someone to do it, paying them, and keeping them paid even if there's no work for them at the moment. The reduction in payroll expenses, plus the license revenue, can then be invested into conservation-related projects. Plus, as fun as hunting may be to those who find it fun, many such people have other skills too, and wouldn't want to stop honing them just to be paid to hunt.

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post #317

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Not sure I agree with this either. I expect the most likely circumstance would be that the defender shows the weapon and the aggressor runs away. It's possible that it results in more gun deaths or injuries when you count both attackers and defenders, but not certain. IMO ctric isn't wrong that, as with anything, you need to study both harms and benefits and make educated decisions; I just had to point out that his i…

> but I have to admit that if someone broke into my house I would prefer to have one than not. Someone actually has broken into my home, when I was there, and I am profoundly grateful that I, and probably the burglar, didn't have a gun available. It didn't even cross my mind to arm myself with a weapon. I offered him a cup of tea. I told him I had nothing of value in the flat, and that it'd be safer for him to come d…

I'm glad that situation worked out well. Could you not have done exactly the same even if you'd had a gun though? And that way had he not responded to your excellent de-escalation technique, and had instead attacked you with a bottle, the deterrent of the weapon might have saved you from injury.

I feel the need to again emphasize that in general I am in support of gun control and that I don't personally own guns; I can see how a person might want to though.

Re: Katie's New Face

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That photo of a face just lying on the table disturbs me...

Likewise. I'd never have expected to say this about a NatGeo article but a warning as to how graphic the pictures were would have been helpful

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post #317

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Not sure I agree with this either. I expect the most likely circumstance would be that the defender shows the weapon and the aggressor runs away. It's possible that it results in more gun deaths or injuries when you count both attackers and defenders, but not certain. IMO ctric isn't wrong that, as with anything, you need to study both harms and benefits and make educated decisions; I just had to point out that his i…

> but I have to admit that if someone broke into my house I would prefer to have one than not. Someone actually has broken into my home, when I was there, and I am profoundly grateful that I, and probably the burglar, didn't have a gun available. It didn't even cross my mind to arm myself with a weapon. I offered him a cup of tea. I told him I had nothing of value in the flat, and that it'd be safer for him to come d…

I don't get it? Just because you own a firearm or have one on your person does not mean you must use it. Also, just because you do not feel comfortable deciding when it's appropriate to use a firearm does not mean other people feel the same way.

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> Much of Katie’s care is being paid for by the Department of Defense, because her youth and ballistic trauma make her a stand-in for wounded warriors. For the rest of her life, she’ll take powerful antirejection drugs with risks of their own, becoming a lifelong subject in the study of this still experimental surgery. Kudos to the DoD for doing this. The military historically has been the driver for advances in surg…

Even better would be not losing her face to begin with. This was preventable. Am I the only one to notice the events that led up to this? 1. Young girl moves multiple times due to her parent’s jobs, causing for stress and anxiety. 2. Girl finds stability and passion when she is granted an encouraging educational experience/environment at a private school where her parents both found contract jobs. 3. Parents both los…

This analysis is all over the place. I'm not sure I found how you would have prevented the incident exactly. Suicide watch because... and by whom?

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Literally a single person could stop the vast majority of organized armed conflict in the world today.

Are you being serious? The vast majority? It absolutely does not work like that.

I can't be bothered to source this information and admit it may be wrong, but common sense tells me that the vast majority of loss of life in the past 20 years that is related to armed combat happened in places where there are US troops or governments whose defense spending is subsidized by the US government. Considering the ridiculous amount the US spends on defense I can't see how this wouldn't be the case.

Re: Katie's New Face

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post #321

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yes, if you cut it in half. Not dishonest at all

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you may not be aware of what "!=" means. They are saying that "people who can't think for themselves" -- the original argument -- are not the same as "people who don't think just like you" -- which is their rebuttal.

I'm aware of what "!=" means, thanks. The rebuttal was saying that just because people think differently from OP, doesn't mean they can't think for themselves. OP never said that people who think differently from them can't think for themselves, they specified a type of people who can't think for themselves, a group much smaller than "everyone who thinks differently".

Re: Katie's New Face

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Yes, we do. You are free to skip any subthread you are not interested in, even to collapse/minimize it if you have javascript enabled for this site.

> Yes, we do. Honest question, why? I just find it slightly inappropriate and not adding much value

Honest question, why do some people like sushi? I hate how sushi tastes, all sushi restaurants should therefore be closed, as they bring no value to the world.
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