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End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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>There is almost no work -- the main sources of income are beekeeping and a bit of forestry. There's no tourism, even though, according to UNESCO, the air here is cleaner than almost anywhere else in Europe.

One of the greatest things the tech industry could do to decrease the economic inequality due to location would be to embrace remote work. Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for its economy.

One area that this would for sure revitalize would be Middle America. There are towns and counties that are in a deep economic recession, but have lots of cheap land and housing. Meanwhile in Silicon Valley, developers making 6 figures worry about whether they can afford a shack. Remote work would be a great boon for both workers and communities.

Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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The article is mystifyingly optimistic about the prospects for the reform of government. Only lawyers can resist reform better than government employees. And then there's the digital revolution in government. If examples elsewhere are a guide, there's huge potential there for a screw up as well. Although I have heard that Estonia has managed it well. Maybe it should be them rather than the French they should be getting advice from?

Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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>There is almost no work -- the main sources of income are beekeeping and a bit of forestry. There's no tourism, even though, according to UNESCO, the air here is cleaner than almost anywhere else in Europe. One of the greatest things the tech industry could do to decrease the economic inequality due to location would be to embrace remote work. Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for…

> Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for its economy.

Could it potentially increase house prices and make them unaffordable for other people?

Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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post #4

>There is almost no work -- the main sources of income are beekeeping and a bit of forestry. There's no tourism, even though, according to UNESCO, the air here is cleaner than almost anywhere else in Europe. One of the greatest things the tech industry could do to decrease the economic inequality due to location would be to embrace remote work. Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for…

> Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for its economy. Could it potentially increase house prices and make them unaffordable for other people?

10 developers are going to buy up all the houses in the village?

Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for its economy. Could it potentially increase house prices and make them unaffordable for other people?

10 developers are going to buy up all the houses in the village?

just decrease dev's salaries and everything will be fine

Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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>It's surprising because economic liberalism doesn't have any deep roots in Greece. There is no liberal party. The Greeks traditionally think in terms of left and right.

A) There is a liberal party in Greece (just as much as there is a liberal party in Germany or France), the people just don't vote for it.

B) Liberalism and "laissez-faire thinking" are right wing, I can't see another way of thinking about that.

I am a recent (after-crisis) Greek immigrant and the assumptions made by the article are not true for me. It is not the wages (I am a professional in an area where there are a lot of good paying jobs, even in Greece) or the bad public sector (you learn to deal with that) that is keeping me away from Greece. It is the beyond-imagination terrible working conditions. Why would I leave my union-protected job in Germany to work twice as many hours (paid overtime is not a thing in Greece) with 0 job stability?

Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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>There is almost no work -- the main sources of income are beekeeping and a bit of forestry. There's no tourism, even though, according to UNESCO, the air here is cleaner than almost anywhere else in Europe. One of the greatest things the tech industry could do to decrease the economic inequality due to location would be to embrace remote work. Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for…

>Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for its economy.

I guarantee that this village has no internet (other than 3/4G with a data cap).

Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine what even having 10 developers living in the village could do for its economy. Could it potentially increase house prices and make them unaffordable for other people?

10 developers are going to buy up all the houses in the village?

They are going to buy them all then rent them back to the original inhabitants. Then write non ironic post about how everyone should build passive source of income because working a 4 hours week is great

Re: End of Greek Aid Package as Country Faces Demographic Crisis

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> She wants to abolish Greek clientelism. Although every politician has promised this since taking office, none has succeeded. For centuries, the Greek administration was little more than an excuse for legal nepotism. Clientelism was the functional principle of society. Its roots reach into the Ottoman era, when clan leaders represented the Greeks to the Ottoman authorities, and they have continued to this day. Jobs in the administration served as a reward. Relationships were more important than skills for filling official positions.

That's Greece in a nutshell right there. Skills were never relevant, and still aren't. It's all about who you know, and what political leverage you have. The results are there for all to see. I left Greece 6 years ago, and unfortunately whenever I visit, nothing seems to change.

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