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The Akrasia Effect: Why We Don’t Follow Through on What We Set Out to Do

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Re: The Akrasia Effect: Why We Don’t Follow Through on What We Set Out to Do

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post #71

I have a pet theory than the reason people procrastinate, is because they don't concretely identify their future selves, as being the "same person" as their present self. Rather, they view their future self as an abstract person, more akin to a friend, than self. This level of relatedness varies with time as well. People identify very strongly with their future self from tomorrow, perhaps akin to their best friend. B…

I doubt it's that complex. Occam's razor suggests a simpler explanation: there is discomfort in starting a task, therefore people delay starting that task. It's a pain avoidance strategy, which sounds much more likely than some self-referential, future-self theory.

I think the future-self theory is an attempt to explain the pain-avoidance.

Re: The Akrasia Effect: Why We Don’t Follow Through on What We Set Out to Do

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say my characterization lacks nuance. Yes, Nietzsche is greatly caricatured (and this interpretation falls within that), but Simone de Beauvoir's critique of his philosophy and its dangers to freedom are much, much better than this. Nietzsche is a lot better than he's usually given credit for, but there are nonetheless some pretty big gaps in applying his ideas to society. To be really odd here, I quit reading Th…

You haven't adequately criticized Nietzsche for the record. So we can't know if this Simone person is up to something.

For the record, I'm not criticizing Nietzsche. I'm saying Simone de Beauvoir criticized Nietzsche in a manner I found interesting enough to remark upon.

"This Simone person" pretty much invented second wave feminism with her book "The Second Sex", and is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of the 20th century. Her work changed the course of history. So yes, she's definitely up to something.

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post #71

I have a pet theory than the reason people procrastinate, is because they don't concretely identify their future selves, as being the "same person" as their present self. Rather, they view their future self as an abstract person, more akin to a friend, than self. This level of relatedness varies with time as well. People identify very strongly with their future self from tomorrow, perhaps akin to their best friend. B…

I've heard of one technique to fight akrasia which relies on your theory. It's an exercise where you contemplate you future self as a friend, whose is immediately benefits from your actions. So if you're trying to not eat an extra serving of cake you imagine your future self as a friend who gets fat when you eat that extra serving.

Be sure to thank past you whenever it's appropriate.

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What helped me get down to deep work was doing away with the nonessentials, i.e. a lot of physical material things, all forms of entertainment, the internet especially, inner clutter like comparing myself to others, etc. Seneca once noted in his Moral letters to Lucilius , “Until we have begun to go without them, we fail to realize how unnecessary many things are. We’ve been using them not because we needed them but…

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Why do we set out to do something? In many cases it's because we've been told achievement is important since a very young age. But since all accomplishments will presumably be lost at the time of the heat death of the Universe, maybe it's more important to focus only on tasks if your inner voice requires such dedication for your own happiness/sanity.

If you never get to enjoy life because you're constantly working at achieving what is required mostly by external influences, you may be wasting your existence.

"This above all: to thine own self be true."

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post #3

"Reduce friction to start" is a huge one for me. Especially if "starting" is a bunch of busywork like writing a Dockerfile, initializing a git repo, creating package metadata files, etc. I've found it helpful to just dive in and start writing the "fun" part first and turn it into a "real" project later. Usually after an hour of coding or less I feel I've created something of value that I want to save and reuse so the…

That has always been the biggest turn off for me as well. Setting up everything takes too long and I like just jumping straight into the project. My gym is right behind my desk, I have 0 excuses to workout almost everyday

I really like the online code repls, where you can save and execute snippets. Nice for maintaining a list of 'scratchpad' projects and can easily share them with non-technical friends or just test an algorithm without having to set up anything.

I think http://repl.it is my favorite so far, but a lot of cool ones are popping up recently.

Re: The Akrasia Effect: Why We Don’t Follow Through on What We Set Out to Do

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What helped me get down to deep work was doing away with the nonessentials, i.e. a lot of physical material things, all forms of entertainment, the internet especially, inner clutter like comparing myself to others, etc. Seneca once noted in his Moral letters to Lucilius , “Until we have begun to go without them, we fail to realize how unnecessary many things are. We’ve been using them not because we needed them but…

Unfortunately doesn't work for me, as I can't unplug one of my main sources of entertainment: my brain. HN and such can be occasionally distracting, but if I'm truly procrastinating, even four blank walls will do, as I'll just space out.

Re: The Akrasia Effect: Why We Don’t Follow Through on What We Set Out to Do

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post #71

I have a pet theory than the reason people procrastinate, is because they don't concretely identify their future selves, as being the "same person" as their present self. Rather, they view their future self as an abstract person, more akin to a friend, than self. This level of relatedness varies with time as well. People identify very strongly with their future self from tomorrow, perhaps akin to their best friend. B…

I doubt it's that complex. Occam's razor suggests a simpler explanation: there is discomfort in starting a task, therefore people delay starting that task. It's a pain avoidance strategy, which sounds much more likely than some self-referential, future-self theory.

Procrastination causes more discomfort in the long term, so without an explanation for why prioritize preventing discomfort now over discomfort later this explanation falls short. That is what GP is attempting to provide.

Re: The Akrasia Effect: Why We Don’t Follow Through on What We Set Out to Do

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post #71

I have a pet theory than the reason people procrastinate, is because they don't concretely identify their future selves, as being the "same person" as their present self. Rather, they view their future self as an abstract person, more akin to a friend, than self. This level of relatedness varies with time as well. People identify very strongly with their future self from tomorrow, perhaps akin to their best friend. B…

Massive offtop, sorry about it. I've been noticing this a lot lately.

I have a pet theory than the reason people procrastinate, is because they don't concretely identify their future selves, as being the "same person" as their present self.

What is the purpose of the two commas in this sentence?

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