Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
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Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
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Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#2Like a $5 wrench[1], but more socially acceptable.
Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#3Seems like the only logical solution is to carry a hammer to destroy your phone if necessary.
If the heat hasn't told you they want your phone, there's nothing legally stopping you from destroying your own property if you see them coming...
Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#4Seems like the only logical solution is to carry a hammer to destroy your phone if necessary. If the heat hasn't told you they want your phone, there's nothing legally stopping you from destroying your own property if you see them coming...
Or snap it in half, most phones will do this easily.
Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#5Seems like the only logical solution is to carry a hammer to destroy your phone if necessary. If the heat hasn't told you they want your phone, there's nothing legally stopping you from destroying your own property if you see them coming...
I usually have my foot with me.
Foot + phone + ground = destroyed phone
But, with enough resources they could still read the memory in the phone even if it was smashed.
Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#6Also concerning is what they are doing towards companies (pardon the tangent):
> It covers [...] device vendors [...] as long as they have "a nexus to Australia"
> But what if the suspect stores the keys themselves? In that case, the government would pull out the big guns with a second kind of order called a technical capability notice. It forces communications providers to build new capabilities that would help the government access a target’s information where possible.
> What if the communications provider doesn’t want to help? Then they could face penalties from the government, or "injunctions or enforceable undertakings".
Yeah, right. But the precedent is alarming, because what is happening (and you see it with other "pro law enforcement" or "pro privacy" legislation too) is governments are giving themselves broad enforcement powers to ask for things and then only using it when push really comes to shove. This they-can-but-they-probably-won't approach towards enforcement is dangerous as it removes predictability in favor of government subjectivity. What does it mean in practice? It can mean that while Samsung or Apple would give them the middle finger resting on their size/leverage, a smaller company can't do that. So the enforcement agencies proportionalize their punishments to the amount tolerable without citizen backlash.
Everyone should just remember this tactic when we go around praising laws with big punishments for big companies just because we happen to like the spirit of the law. And also remember this when people call us stupid for questioning subjectivity of statute enforcement or the lack of statute enforcement in general when new versions of these laws are crafted.
Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#7Seems like the only logical solution is to carry a hammer to destroy your phone if necessary. If the heat hasn't told you they want your phone, there's nothing legally stopping you from destroying your own property if you see them coming...
Or snap it in half, most phones will do this easily.
Would you, under immediate threat, be able to locate and destroy the memory chips—and specifically the memory chips—on your phone? If they're prepared to lock you up for 10 years, they're prepared to do some serious digital forensics on some unsnapped chips.
Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#8Genuinely curious - What is the current state / precedent for this type of situation in the US?
Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#9I think it's fine. If you did nothing wrong then you have nothing to lose by unlocking your phone. So if you don't unlock your phone, it's an admission of guilt.
People are way too paranoid. Nobody cares about what you do with your phone.
Sometimes I feel like the upper classes of society (especially hypocrites who have money and a reputation to protect) are projecting their fears on all other classes. Then like fools, the honest proletariat adopts all these ridiculous fears as their own.
Re: Australians who won't unlock their phones could face ten years in jail
#10I think it's fine. If you did nothing wrong then you have nothing to lose by unlocking your phone. So if you don't unlock your phone, it's an admission of guilt. People are way too paranoid. Nobody cares about what you do with your phone. Sometimes I feel like the upper classes of society (especially hypocrites who have money and a reputation to protect) are projecting their fears on all other classes. Then like fool…
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