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Significant levels of glyphosate found in popular breakfast cereals

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Re: Significant levels of glyphosate found in popular breakfast cereals

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Post by joshuahughes »

koliber wrote: post #5

I don't understand what this article is trying to convey. > One sample of Quaker Old Fashioned Oats measured at more than 1,000 parts per billion of glyphosate. That's 1 part per million (ppm), found in one particular sample. I imagine this was the most extreme outlier, as otherwise it would not be mentioned as prominently. And then, right in the next sentence: > The Environmental Protection Agency has a range of saf…

The source on the EWG website (linked from the article) seems to have all values listed as parts per billion... https://www.ewg.org/childrenshealth/glyphosateincereal

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Post by darpa_escapee »

koliber wrote: post #5

I don't understand what this article is trying to convey. > One sample of Quaker Old Fashioned Oats measured at more than 1,000 parts per billion of glyphosate. That's 1 part per million (ppm), found in one particular sample. I imagine this was the most extreme outlier, as otherwise it would not be mentioned as prominently. And then, right in the next sentence: > The Environmental Protection Agency has a range of saf…

The levels the EPA considers safe is for use on crops.

These are the levels deemed safe for levels in food[1]. The median seems to be about 0.2ppm for glyphosate levels in food meant for human consumption.

[1] https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=0f2a0a6738...

Re: Significant levels of glyphosate found in popular breakfast cereals

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Post by roel_v »

koliber wrote: post #5

I don't understand what this article is trying to convey. > One sample of Quaker Old Fashioned Oats measured at more than 1,000 parts per billion of glyphosate. That's 1 part per million (ppm), found in one particular sample. I imagine this was the most extreme outlier, as otherwise it would not be mentioned as prominently. And then, right in the next sentence: > The Environmental Protection Agency has a range of saf…

It's the Guardian. It's the British equivalent of Fox but from the other side of the political spectrum. I don't understand why so much Guardian drivel is upvoted here every day.

Re: Significant levels of glyphosate found in popular breakfast cereals

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Post by s21n »

TsomArp wrote: post #2

I don't understand why aren't they forbidden from selling that shit.

Probably because it's not toxic or cancerogenic in the quantities that it is used.

It's less toxic (LD50) than table salt. There's no evidence that the glyphosate residues in food could cause cancer. It's even much safer for farmers than many other pesticides, despite the fact that farmers get in contact with much greater quantities. It's not linked to cancer in farmers, except in case of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, but even this link is weak, and debatable at least: https://plantoutofplace.com/2018/08/glyphosate-and-cancer-re...

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Post by jacksproit »

roel_v wrote: post #13
koliber wrote: post #5

I don't understand what this article is trying to convey. > One sample of Quaker Old Fashioned Oats measured at more than 1,000 parts per billion of glyphosate. That's 1 part per million (ppm), found in one particular sample. I imagine this was the most extreme outlier, as otherwise it would not be mentioned as prominently. And then, right in the next sentence: > The Environmental Protection Agency has a range of saf…

It's the Guardian. It's the British equivalent of Fox but from the other side of the political spectrum. I don't understand why so much Guardian drivel is upvoted here every day.

They do investigative journalism with primary sources and documented references which puts them ahead of most news outlets these days. Yes they have a bias but it’s predictable.

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Post by darpa_escapee »

nealdt wrote: post #6

All the more reason to select organic produce and where possible start growing your own veggies or link up with local co-operatives. It's something we've done and having a close relationship with local growers and knowing about your food is fantastic and something kids love. The [roduce tends to have more nutrients as well (yet more positives). Can it be done large scale? I remember hearing in a talk about permacultu…

While you won't have to worry about glysophate on organic food, just as much, if not more, pesticides are used on organic crops.

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Post by userbinator »

koliber wrote: post #5

I don't understand what this article is trying to convey. > One sample of Quaker Old Fashioned Oats measured at more than 1,000 parts per billion of glyphosate. That's 1 part per million (ppm), found in one particular sample. I imagine this was the most extreme outlier, as otherwise it would not be mentioned as prominently. And then, right in the next sentence: > The Environmental Protection Agency has a range of saf…

That's my impression when I read the headline and article too. Analytic methods have become so highly sensitive that the tiniest trace is detectable, but that doesn't mean it's significant.

Combine that with a "think of the children" perspective and it makes great sensational-but-vacuous news.

As they say, the dose makes the poison...

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Post by masto »

koliber wrote: post #5

I don't understand what this article is trying to convey. > One sample of Quaker Old Fashioned Oats measured at more than 1,000 parts per billion of glyphosate. That's 1 part per million (ppm), found in one particular sample. I imagine this was the most extreme outlier, as otherwise it would not be mentioned as prominently. And then, right in the next sentence: > The Environmental Protection Agency has a range of saf…

The reason it looks sensationalistic is that it is. This is the result of an anti-science advocacy group called EWG that put out a press release that's being republished by various lazy news outlets. This is the same group that has made claims that vaccines cause autism and cell phones cause brain cancer. Unfortunately, this type of article is irresistible to the media and it's getting a ridiculous amount of traction. The science on glyphosate has not changed, and these "findings" by the EWG are junk.

Here's something a little more reputable. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-behind-the-roun...

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