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It’s not like anyone is taking their actual laptop to DEFCON…
You would be surprised.
Could be a burner.
When Security Compromises Security – The Caesars/Defcon debacle
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Re: When Security Compromises Security – The Caesars/Defcon debacle
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I'm not quite following, apart from firing guns, what is it you can do in Vegas that took can't do in Europe? Or are you saying the guns are what makes DEFCON?
People routinely and unremarkably carry weapons upon their person at DEFCON. It's a reasonably common event, to the point where early pictures of DEFCON events sometimes contained more guns than laptops. The yearly shoot is a social fixture. Guns are an easy example. Lockpicks are another - the UK does not smile on them. I'm saying you cannot readily relocate DEFCON to a randomly selected European conference venue wi…
> Why not move Jeremy Corbyn's next rally to, I dunno, Canada?
Because Jeremy Corbyn is a politician whose constituency is in the UK. The just makes DEFCON sound parochial
> Lockpicks are another - the UK does not smile on them.
Yet locksmiths in the UK routinely carry them.
You seem to be trying to paint a picture of Vegas being free, and Europe being oppressive. There are plenty of things that are legal in parts of Europe that are not in the USA. What you have really succeeded in doing is painting a picture that DEFCON is so much about guns that you would not trade the guns for anything.
Re: When Security Compromises Security – The Caesars/Defcon debacle
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
People routinely and unremarkably carry weapons upon their person at DEFCON. It's a reasonably common event, to the point where early pictures of DEFCON events sometimes contained more guns than laptops. The yearly shoot is a social fixture. Guns are an easy example. Lockpicks are another - the UK does not smile on them. I'm saying you cannot readily relocate DEFCON to a randomly selected European conference venue wi…
> Why not move Jeremy Corbyn's next rally to, I dunno, Canada? Because Jeremy Corbyn is a politician whose constituency is in the UK. The just makes DEFCON sound parochial > Lockpicks are another - the UK does not smile on them. Yet locksmiths in the UK routinely carry them. You seem to be trying to paint a picture of Vegas being free, and Europe being oppressive. There are plenty of things that are legal in parts of…
> Because Jeremy Corbyn is a politician whose constituency is in the UK. The just makes DEFCON sound parochial
You're exactly right! His events are tied to a place. Perhaps DEFCON is a convention whose primary constituency is in North America in the same way that CCC is a convention whose primary constituency is in continental Europe.
> Yet locksmiths in the UK routinely carry them.
Because they're licensed for such. Random people are subject to arrest for doing the same thing. Which would mean that nearly everyone who visits the lockpick village would be subject to arrest and a goodly number of other attendees. We're talking about thousands of people, arrested for having funny-shaped little bits of metal.
What I'm saying is that you are possessed of the wonderful opportunity to come to a greater understanding of what DEFCON - and its community - are. It's perhaps possible that you may stand to benefit by perhaps seeking first to understand the thing you wish others to consider changes to.